Put blame where it belongs
ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.
This has been an interesting discussion. Many conservatives see the example as Utopian and not realistic, they bring into the discussion their biases towards ideas that seem too good to be true. A few mention that people would never behave this way but consider that the same people do not want any central authorities - but then claim the same people (often conservatives) will provide the necessary charity and care. Can you have it both ways and do people really have the time.
I wasn't sure what the conservative would do when I thought this up, but then I thought why would the conservative leave, she may stay. I agree with the few people who also noted that possibility.
Other conservatives glorify the concept that more freedom exists in the unequal society. I purposely wanted both places to be similar as freedom is often used in so vague and hazy a way as to have no real meaning. This actually returns us to a modern liberal idea that freedom really means nothing if you can do nothing. Saying I am free is like saying I am good person. Prove it. (my nutshells on freedom)
And then some suggested that a liberal would leave; the conservative would stay. This too is an interesting irony of ideological stances. Conservatives are often for the here and now while liberals hope progress makes things a little nicer. A neat twist on things.
Trust me, there is nothing modern about me philosophically. I latch onto dead movements all the time, such as the Federalist Party and conservatism that was developed by Real Whig Ideology and early colonial American experiences...
Hell, I am the prototypical 90s guy, celebrating fads and short-lived customs from that particular decade which no one else cares about anymore...
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
Last edited by NOVA; 09-20-2009 at 05:37 PM.
Put blame where it belongs
ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.
Wonder when those polls were taken. Before or after Happy Hour, or should I say Happy Days?
World/Global Alcohol/Drink Consumption 2009
Europeans are the world's top consumers of alcohol in the world.
Heavy drinking is part of the culture of Northern Europeans in particular.
In the 25-member EU, 90 percent of 15- and 16-year-old students have consumed alcohol at some point in their lives, a rate far higher than in the United States, according to the European School Survey Project on Alcohol and Other Drugs. On average, they begin to drink at 12½ and get drunk for the first time at 14. Among 15-year-old Danes, 50 percent of the boys and 37 percent of the girls drink every week, according to a study by the University of Copenhagen.
http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/bestp...riceseurope.ht
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