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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    yes, there was. It was a financial crime, which was just business as usual for the thief in chief.
    Who were the victims if this is a crime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Hello.....KNOCK KNOCK, is there anything between your ears? This is about EXCESSIVE bail numbnuts.
    Its not bail. You idiots always want higher bail. But it appears you do not know the difference between bail and a judgement.
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    44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.


    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    This is a great question. You know the leftist mongrels don't give a shit about what's just.
    No, they're firmly in the Stalinist camp...


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    Truth Detector/Into the Night was let out of the mental asylum.

    Back to his psychotic stalking again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Put it in reverse, you are saying that Trump has no consequences for his fraud until he and his army of attorneys completely exhaust the legal system, which we know in his case, could be years. Plus, he can meet the meet the judgement, even liquidating some of his assets, as those that he gain in advantage in obtaining via fraud
    Who did he defraud? How much were they defrauded by? Let's say he does liquidate some assets. Will he get a good price or will they be sold at rock bottom prices because everybody knows he needs cash? If the later, then he is suffering harm by being forced to sell assets at below market value. Will the sale of these assets harm his future earning potential?

    What happens if he is absolved of the charges on appeal? Does the state have to pay him back with interest the way he's being forced to pay them?

    But, the question remains: Who was defrauded and by how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No, they're firmly in the Stalinist camp...

    All the leftists will pleasure themselves to this picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Truth Detector/Into the Night was let out of the mental asylum.

    Back to his psychotic stalking again.
    You should still be there but apparently letting mentally deranged people like you out of the nut house is now considered "compassionate".
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Who did he defraud? How much were they defrauded by? Let's say he does liquidate some assets. Will he get a good price or will they be sold at rock bottom prices because everybody knows he needs cash? If the later, then he is suffering harm by being forced to sell assets at below market value. Will the sale of these assets harm his future earning potential?

    What happens if he is absolved of the charges on appeal? Does the state have to pay him back with interest the way he's being forced to pay them?

    But, the question remains: Who was defrauded and by how much?
    No one was defrauded. This was a campaign promise from that nazi da in ny
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Same idiocy over and over again, he broke the law, he received an advantage others did not, you do the crime, you pay the fine, basic tenet of all law

    If you get a speeding tickets tell the Judge you don’t deserve to suffer any consequences cause there were “no victims, no claimants”
    Speeding tickets come with a fixed, known, penalty not one made up out of thin air by the judge. Second, the way the law Trump was charged under was 100% up to now only applied against persons who had committed and were convicted of an actual property or money crime and caused monetary loss as a result of that crime. It is similar to how NY state changed their laws to allow E. Jean Carol to sue Trump, and after winning, they changed it back.

    E. Jean Carroll, a writer for Elle magazine, Thursday filed an amended lawsuit against former President Donald Trump, minutes after New York’s Adult Survivor’s Act went into effect.

    Survivors now have a one-year window to file the allowed civil actions for cases of sexual assault for which they previously could not file suit past the time limitation placed on the crime.

    https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/11/...t-civil-cases/

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Which is a greater injustice? Trump having to put up the entire amount to appeal this ruling, or this amount keeping him from appealing this ruling?
    He has to follow the rules just like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    He has to follow the rules just like everyone else.
    The ruling, like the use of the law he was prosecuted under, are unprecedented exceptions. That doesn't change my question however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The ruling, like the use of the law he was prosecuted under, are unprecedented exceptions. That doesn't change my question however.
    Your question is how much more pure is Trump than Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Your question is how much more pure is Trump than Jesus.
    You sound like Biden at the podium...


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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You sound like Biden at to]
    You sound like asshole taking a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Which is a greater injustice? Trump having to put up the entire amount to appeal this ruling, or this amount keeping him from appealing this ruling?
    You can enter an appeal without placing a bond or any money (Rudy did) but then it does not 'stay' the collection of the money and the winner of the case can immediately get orders to walk over to your banks, clean out any cash, and begin the process of seizing and selling your property.


    Trump just did, just that with E Jean $83MM case, as is being reported. He filed the appeal but provided no bond and thus there will be no stay.

    And no there is nothing unjust about it.

    Think of it this way. YOu are fighting with someone over a hundred dollar bill you both believe is yours. It is in your possession.

    In court you lose, and they say it is the other persons. You plan to appeal., fine, but the current ruling is that it is HIS (not your) property. So he should be the one holding it in the appeal and not you, so you do not blow it, out of anger before the next case. It is HIS until ruled otherwise so he should hold it.

    BUt the courts allow you to escrow it instead (post it as security or a bond instead) to ensure you do not pay it to the person, and then you win in the appeal and the other person has blown it all and cannot repay you.


    So the ONLY FAIR and JUST thing to do is to make the person who lost put the entire amount in escrow to protect it. The second best thing, is to give it to the winner. Last would be letting the loser keep it as appeals play out over years as they have the highest motivation to then make sure it is all spent before handing it over.
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