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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I said nothing about Biden being shielded. If there was any evidence (which there was none) he committed illegal acts he should be investigated and prosecuted. But it is not the job of the U. S. president to ask a foreign leader to investigate a family. Now it turns out any evidence was phony. It was a big waste of time and money.

    And also that Shokin was not investigating Burisma (the investigation ended before Biden's intervention). Shokin was corrupt, not investigating corruption, and the U. S. and its allies worked together to get rid of him.

    I don't think any presidents or former presidents should have immunity.

    I think for you, that like Gov. Hochul said, it's only because Trump did it.


    Why is it not the job of a president to ask for an investigation of corruption? Why would you want to block that?

    Shokin was accused of blocking investigations of corruption. He was never charged or tried, that I know of. It was never proved.


    True, a direct link to Burisma was never proved. But we still don't know why Burisma hired a known American cocaine junkie for a sweetheart, no show job. Why?

    Ukraine elected Poroshenko who chose Shokin. Who did Biden choose to replace him? IMO, Biden's threats to and interference in the UKraine gov't was dictatorial, immoral, and anti democractic.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I think for you, that like Gov. Hochul said, it's only because Trump did it.


    Why is it not the job of a president to ask for an investigation of corruption? Why would you want to block that?

    Shokin was accused of blocking investigations of corruption. He was never charged or tried, that I know of. It was never proved.


    True, a direct link to Burisma was never proved. But we still don't know why Burisma hired a known American cocaine junkie for a sweetheart, no show job. Why?

    Ukraine elected Poroshenko who chose Shokin. Who did Biden choose to replace him? IMO, Biden's threats to and interference in the UKraine gov't was dictatorial, immoral, and anti democractic.
    Nothing wrong with investigating corruption. But the U. S. gives aid to many corrupt nations. Trump was only interested in Biden's corruption.


    I'm sure Hunter was hired because of his name and the possible influence it might carry. That is not illegal and occurs often. American corporate boards are filled with well-known members with no experience in that field.


    What did Ivanka, Jared, or Don Jr. know about government service? Why did Saudi Arabia give Jared $2 billion with very little experience in investing against the advice of the fund trustees? Probably the same reason Burisma hired Hunter.

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    I still am not quite sure what the title is supposed to mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Nothing wrong with investigating corruption. But the U. S. gives aid to many corrupt nations. Trump was only interested in Biden's corruption.


    I'm sure Hunter was hired because of his name and the possible influence it might carry. That is not illegal and occurs often. American corporate boards are filled with well-known members with no experience in that field.


    What did Ivanka, Jared, or Don Jr. know about government service? Why did Saudi Arabia give Jared $2 billion with very little experience in investing against the advice of the fund trustees? Probably the same reason Burisma hired Hunter.
    Ralph Nader was an anti corruption DC outsider, and so is Trump.

    I have lost count of how many people and gov'ts he has accused of being corrupt, criminal, unfair and crooked, ... and called for investigations. Zelensky was very offended when Trump called Ukraine one of the most corrupt countries.

    Trump would agree with you that corruption is endemic. IMO, he is the anti gov't corruption President. Trump is the most transparent president, and anti corruption president we have seen in our life times.

    Ivanka is an expert in brand marketing and entrepreneurship. Jared started his first real estate development company when he was in college. It is his lifelong passion and he has become an expert. Some Saudis asked him to be an investment manager for $2 billion worth of assets. They did NOT give him 2 billion.

    IMO, both are very intelligent, extremely capable people.

    Business Management skills are easily transferable to gov't positions. No "political priesthood" experience is necessary.
    Last edited by Bigdog; 02-25-2024 at 11:12 AM.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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