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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    You decide , the only reason we pay is to control them for thew sake of big B in this country, as in policing the world. You are a idiot. I am so tired of these brain dead dumb fucks.
    So now you want to see NATO abolished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    What Biden did and Obama did doesn't compare to the blow job promised to Putin monthly for the rest of their lives. You are one dumb fuck ., Clown Idiot!
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    This is Biden and Obama's war. Pootie backed off when Trump was Pres.. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QP! View Post
    yes it is awful to try and 'scare NATO members into increasing their defense budget' by letting their enemy know, you will support them attacking if they do not.

    If you do not understand why, that is because you awful. Oh and stupid.
    They pledged 2% in 2006. What should Biden do to get them to keep their promise. Start a real war next door???

    Trump is NOT the CIC.

    Biden Doesn't want to defeat Russia. He has dragged out this war for 2 years. Biden's narrative on fear of escalation is his excuse for not winning..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You really cannot understand it at all. The Germans are helping Ukraine while the Repubs are stopping our assistance. We are not doing our part. But you are still unable to process how it works. The deal is the NATO countries will spend 2 % of GDP on the military. If they fall short, assuming the 1.9 is an egregious shortage, we do not pay more. Poland is well aware that Russia has them in its sights. They are building a defense against them. This is not about greed or selfishness.
    Thank gawd, we do not pay more. We do not need to pass the Ukraine funding bill. I am glad you agree.

    Yeah, Poland fears a Russian invasion. The rest of Europe does not, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QP! View Post
    yes it is awful to try and 'scare NATO members into increasing their defense budget' by letting their enemy know, you will support them attacking if they do not.

    If you do not understand why, that is because you awful. Oh and stupid.
    Better do what Biden did. Invite "minor incursions" in Ukraine, and create a real war.

    Dumbass nazi mofo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Scaring NATO members into increasing their defense budgets. How awful. You're ridiculous and you hate Americans. You prefer that EU dick.

    It was Biden that gave Pootie the green light with his "minor incursions" comment. And Obama's collusion with Vlad that started the whole war in 2014.
    Most people, especially Americans appear not to know that. Part of the problem is Chamberlain died before the war was over and the narrative was mostly from Churchill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    First time I've ever seen anyone quote Quora as a supposedly factual source....

    I provided another source as well, did you read that?

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...battle-britain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Better do what Biden did. Invite "minor incursions" in Ukraine, and create a real war.

    Dumbass nazi mofo.
    Putin already attacked Ukraine when he said that. Putin was all in. I cannot believe you typed something that ridiculous. But Trumpys can bend anything they want to "win" like Trump.Lies are your currency. Biden told us all that Putin was going in when righties were saying he would not .

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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity View Post
    I provided another source as well, did you read that?
    Not in the post I responded to.

    That's the first I've seen of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Not in the post I responded to.

    That's the first I've seen of it.
    It's in the same thread, anyway you've seen it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity View Post
    It's in the same thread, anyway you've seen it now.
    Whoopee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Whoopee.

    Here is another Quora link for you to ignore.

    Was British prime minister Neville Chamberlain’s decision to invest heavily in fighter squadrons and development of radar the main reason Britain was the victor in the Battle of Britain? Would Britain have fallen if not done in time?

    Yes, and Chamberlain in particular should be credited with three specific calls that he made and persuaded his cabinet to agree to:


    • Invest in fighter defence over strategic bombers, against the RAF’s own wishes. Chamberlain didn’t subscribe to the Trenchard philosophy of strategic bombing (which in turn came from Douhet), and advocated for the RAF to have a defensive strategy. He also believed fighters were cheaper than bombers, which was no small part of his motivation! Pressure from Chamberlain in particular was one of the reasons for the formation of RAF Fighter Command in 1936.
    • Invest in single-seat fighters, particularly the Spitfire, over other types, like turret fighters (a design that one W.S. Churchill was a big advocate of). Chamberlain even spoke about the need for single seat fighters in the commons in May 1938, and had advocated their prioritisation even earlier when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer. No doubt he was getting technical advice from somewhere, but he made the right call.
    • Munich. For all the negative things that can be said about the Munich Agreement, it gave Britain, and the RAF in particular, time to grow its air defences. At the time of Munich, Fighter Command had just 25 squadrons, but by the eve of the Battle of Britain, they had 58, and even more importantly, because of Chamberlain’s earlier pushes for the creation of shadow factories, the British were out-producing the German aircraft industries (which is even more impressive when you realise a Spitfire took three times as many man-hours to make as a Bf 109…)

    Chamberlain himself wrote to his sister in July 1940 and said, “If I am personally responsible for deficiencies in tanks and guns, I must equally be responsible for the effeciency of the RAF”, and he wasn’t far wrong.

    https://www.quora.com/Was-British-pr...et_type=answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity View Post
    Most people, especially Americans appear not to know that. Part of the problem is Chamberlain died before the war was over and the narrative was mostly from Churchill.
    Most Americans know little about Chamberlain. Chamberlain was the Prime Minister that declared war on Germany when it invaded Poland. Most Americans do not know that he was the one who finally stood up to Germany. Chamberlain was a member of the Conservative Party, just like Churchill and Thatcher. Many Americans, and almost all conservative Americans somehow assume that it was the British liberals pushing for peace at any cost. It was actually the Conservatives willing to sell out all of Europe for peace.

    And remember, it was Churchill that pulled the key forces out of the Ardennes to reassign them to a defeat in Norway. That allowed the Germans to cross into France almost unimpeded. They may have won without Churchill, but they definitely won with him. Churchill later went on to give the stupidest orders for Canadian troops in France(unload all their artillery, and leave it for the Germans), and British troops in Singapore(put more troops in while removing their weapons).

    Churchill was the only Conservative anyone could find that had a stomach for war. They paired him with Attlee in a war cabinet, where Attlee (Labour Party) took care of all the domestic policies. When the USA entered the war, they took over command of the war. That left everyone wondering what Churchill was doing. Which is why at the first opportunity, after VE Day, but before VJ Day, voters kicked Churchill out of office. Yet again, most Americans do not know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity View Post
    Here is another Quora link for you to ignore.

    Was British prime minister Neville Chamberlain’s decision to invest heavily in fighter squadrons and development of radar the main reason Britain was the victor in the Battle of Britain? Would Britain have fallen if not done in time?

    Yes, and Chamberlain in particular should be credited with three specific calls that he made and persuaded his cabinet to agree to:
    [*]Invest in fighter defence over strategic bombers, against the RAF’s own wishes. Chamberlain didn’t subscribe to the Trenchard philosophy of strategic bombing (which in turn came from Douhet), and advocated for the RAF to have a defensive strategy. He also believed fighters were cheaper than bombers, which was no small part of his motivation! Pressure from Chamberlain in particular was one of the reasons for the formation of RAF Fighter Command in 1936.[*]Invest in single-seat fighters, particularly the Spitfire, over other types, like turret fighters (a design that one W.S. Churchill was a big advocate of). Chamberlain even spoke about the need for single seat fighters in the commons in May 1938, and had advocated their prioritisation even earlier when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer. No doubt he was getting technical advice from somewhere, but he made the right call.[*]Munich. For all the negative things that can be said about the Munich Agreement, it gave Britain, and the RAF in particular, time to grow its air defences. At the time of Munich, Fighter Command had just 25 squadrons, but by the eve of the Battle of Britain, they had 58, and even more importantly, because of Chamberlain’s earlier pushes for the creation of shadow factories, the British were out-producing the German aircraft industries (which is even more impressive when you realise a Spitfire took three times as many man-hours to make as a Bf 109…)

    Chamberlain himself wrote to his sister in July 1940 and said, “If I am personally responsible for deficiencies in tanks and guns, I must equally be responsible for the effeciency of the RAF”, and he wasn’t far wrong.
    I don't care about any of that ancient history.

    It still took the good ol' US of A to bail your asses out and pull your fat out of the fire.

    What I'm curious about is, if you're so anxious to make it clear that Britain didn't appease Hitler, why are you pals with these Trump sucking Trumper goofballs who are all hot to appease Putin?

    Seems like that would be an affront to you.

    Unless your ethics are situational.
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    The current plan is to steal something like $300 billion from Russia and use it to finish the destruction of Ukraine. There is supposed to be an announcement tomorrow.

    This will not end well for the West.
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