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    I have never read "Catcher in the Rye"... I really don't even know what the book is about.
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    whew, I thought I was the only one and was so ashamed.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Join us... Who else hasn't read this mysterious book?
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I have never read "Catcher in the Rye"... I really don't even know what the book is about.
    I haven't read it either.

    I'm gonna take a flyer and bet it's some kind of baseball story?

    Or maybe about the local animal control officer tracking wild beasts in tall grass?
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Join us... Who else hasn't read this mysterious book?
    This is what Wilki said about it.

    The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
    First edition cover Author J. D. Salinger Country United States Language English Genre(s) Novel Publisher Little, Brown and Company Publication date July 16, 1951 Media type Print (Hardback & Paperback) Pages 276 pp ISBN 0-316-76953-3
    The cover of the 1985 Bantam edition.


    The Catcher in the Rye is a 1951 novel by J. D. Salinger. Originally published for adults,[1] the novel has become a common part of high school and college curricula throughout the English-speaking world[citation needed]; it has also been translated into almost all of the world's major languages.[2] Around 250,000 copies are sold each year, with total sales of more than sixty-five million.[3] The novel's antihero, Holden Caulfield, has become an icon for teenage rebellion and defiance.[4]
    The novel was among the 100 best English-language novels from 1923 to 2005 as chosen by Time,[5] and named by Modern Library and its readers as one of the 100 best English-language novels of the 20th century. It has been frequently challenged[6][7][8] in the United States for its liberal use of profanity and portrayal of sexuality and teenage angst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I have never read "Catcher in the Rye"... I really don't even know what the book is about.
    It's a coming of age story about a teenage boy at a prep school who's having an identity crises. Many of the situations and feeling the protagonist have are universal in nature in regards to the feelings a young man has when he bridges the gap from childhood dependence to adult independence. Most every male I know who's read to book has said "Wow, that's what I felt like when I was a teenager." and that's why Catcher in the Rye is a classic.

    It's a short read but a good one. I very much recommend it. To this day, I do not understand why this book, with it's universal themes, would even remotely be considered controversial by conservatives. Go figure?

    I read it when I was in high school and it had a huge impact on me. Made me realize my feelings about myself and my experiences were in no way unique. Made me feel a lot better about myself.
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    its pretty r0x0r. im glad you are not a phony


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    It's a coming of age story about a teenage boy at a prep school who's having an identity crises. Many of the situations and feeling the protagonist have are universal in nature in regards to the feelings a young man has when he bridges the gap from childhood dependence to adult independence. Most every male I know who's read to book has said "Wow, that's what I felt like when I was a teenager." and that's why Catcher in the Rye is a classic.

    It's a short read but a good one. I very much recommend it. To this day, I do not understand why this book, with it's universal themes, would even remotely be considered controversial by conservatives. Go figure?

    I read it when I was in high school and it had a huge impact on me. Made me realize my feelings about myself and my experiences were in no way unique. Made me feel a lot better about myself.
    Blaming it on the Conservatives? You are stretching it.
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    I have not read it.
    I don't think it is scifi.
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    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    It's a coming of age story about a teenage boy at a prep school who's having an identity crises. Many of the situations and feeling the protagonist have are universal in nature in regards to the feelings a young man has when he bridges the gap from childhood dependence to adult independence. Most every male I know who's read to book has said "Wow, that's what I felt like when I was a teenager." and that's why Catcher in the Rye is a classic.

    It's a short read but a good one. I very much recommend it. To this day, I do not understand why this book, with it's universal themes, would even remotely be considered controversial by conservatives. Go figure?

    I read it when I was in high school and it had a huge impact on me. Made me realize my feelings about myself and my experiences were in no way unique. Made me feel a lot better about myself.
    From everything I've seen, supposedly Conservatives all have read it and especially the Conspiracy Theorists....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    From everything I've seen, supposedly Conservatives all have read it and especially the Conspiracy Theorists....

    Written by Ayn Rand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    To this day, I do not understand why this book, with it's universal themes, would even remotely be considered controversial by liberals. Go figure?
    I was thinking this same exact thing about 'Atlas shrugged'.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    i think both lee harvey oswald and the guy that shot reagan both had this book on their person. It's a favorite book among assasins.

    Religious prude conservatives don't like it because it's high school reading material and the kid goes to a prostitute and the pimp comes after him, to my recollection. among other zany happenings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    It's a coming of age story about a teenage boy at a prep school who's having an identity crises. Many of the situations and feeling the protagonist have are universal in nature in regards to the feelings a young man has when he bridges the gap from childhood dependence to adult independence. Most every male I know who's read to book has said "Wow, that's what I felt like when I was a teenager." and that's why Catcher in the Rye is a classic.

    It's a short read but a good one. I very much recommend it. To this day, I do not understand why this book, with it's universal themes, would even remotely be considered controversial by conservatives. Go figure?

    I read it when I was in high school and it had a huge impact on me. Made me realize my feelings about myself and my experiences were in no way unique. Made me feel a lot better about myself.
    Maybe it's the fact that he buys a prostitute and his gay teacher comes onto him.
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    oohhh yeah i forgot about the gay teacher. lol


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