Progressives blew it, and now democracy is on the brink

[PostmodernProphet]

It allowed conservatives to define progressivism to a frightened public

the public isn't frightened of you.....they're disgusted with you.....

[PostmodernProphet]

liberals are now the elites & the power brokers. Really, they're the establishment.

lol....true, they are the self-proclaimed elites....after all, they drive electric vehicles instead of pick up trucks so they must be cool, right?.......

[PostmodernProphet]

the new establishment....

[anonymoose]

lol....true, they are the self-proclaimed elites....after all, they drive electric vehicles ....

That the liberal elite is forcing on those that can’t afford them.

[cawacko]

The left did that - and I get why people are overreacting to it. I think most reasonable people support LGBTQ rights. But they also want to be able to walk around Target without seeing tuck friendly swimsuits prominently displayed.

By rushing the agenda, they're hurting it.

I know we use the words interchangeably but after listening to those two academics today they are what we would call old school left compared to Democrats (that's neither here nor there though).

At the Presidential level, outside Regan/Bush neither party has gone longer than 8 years in power in a long time. In the past 25/30 years in Congress power has changed hands frequently as well. We can look at blue states with Republican governors and Red states with Democratic Governors. Point being the pendulum continues to swing back and forth (as far as electoral politics go).

[Grokmaster]

I love how "progressives", who HATE AMERICA, always declare anything threatening their treasonous bullshit is a "threat to democracy".

Fucking ridiculous doublespeak.

[Stone]

The woke left types are some of the most physically, morally, and mentally disgusting people the world has ever seen. Actually on second thought,...they arent ONE OF the most,..they are THE MOST. All you have to do is simply look at them personally and the causes they support. DISGUSTING and Repulsive doesnt even begin to describe them.

[Hawkeye10]

The woke left types are some of the most physically, morally, and mentally disgusting people the world has ever seen. Actually on second thought,...they arent ONE OF the most,..they are THE MOST. All you have to do is simply look at them personally and the causes they support. DISGUSTING and Repulsive doesnt even begin to describe them.

Sadistic, Evil are the type of words you are looking for.

[Stone]

Sadistic, Evil are the type of words you are looking for.

The die hard Nazi's were human trash but at least most of them were physically fit and super intelligent as a whole. I would say that in many regards the woke left are several notches below the Below the NAZI'S in most areas. Like,...wayyyyyyyyyyyyy below.

[Earl]

the public isn't frightened of you.....they're disgusted with you.....

Indeed.

I've tried to tell him that many times, disgust, revulsion...not fear.

Progressive ideals are no where close to ideal. They are repulsive.

The gains that they have made at the polls are illegitimate and are being reversed as we speak.

[NiftyNiblick]

At risk? No son. Truth is were going to blow it all to bits and cast the dying remnants to the wind which is exactly where they belong. When we are done there wont be a left.

I have a different guess as to what of what you and Earl blow, Stoner.

[Earl]

I have a different guess as to what of what you and Earl blow, Stoner.

Oh, death!

[Hawkeye10]

The die hard Nazi's were human trash but at least most of them were physically fit and super intelligent as a whole. I would say that in many regards the woke left are several notches below the Below the NAZI'S in most areas. Like,...wayyyyyyyyyyyyy below.

I have said that at least the NAZI's were honest about what they were after....the WOKE consider honesty a character flaw.

[zymurgy]

Just watching what happened in Argentina, and what is unfolding hear in America w/ Trump seemingly coasting to the GOP nomination, and what looks likely to be a return to the Oval.

Reasonable people can't help but question these things. How is this happening? How can so many people WANT this return to more authoritarian rule?

Part of the answer is that the left gave them no palatable alternative. Progressive ideals are the correct ones - they ARE the future. In the future, people will work harder to protect our planet. LGBTQ won't even be a discussion topic, because we'll view all people equally and all will have equal rights and respect. Et al.

But the left went too far, too fast. It allowed conservatives to define progressivism to a frightened public, for whom the changes were seen as too extreme and a threat to the lives they had gotten used to. The right was given some license to fearmonger to the extreme, painting pictures of all communities being like San Francisco (or, their interpretation of what that city represents).

When people are afraid, they'll choose from a place of fear (logical). It's not an aspirational place. It's a reactionary place.

Progressives blew it. And now everything they hold dear is at risk.

you think Argentina is returning to a more authoritarian rule?

[Concart]

I don' believe for one second that Trump will win the White House. He has zero room for growth, and a year out, many people remain clueless as to what his intent is. That will change. Hopefully I'm right about this, but I can guarantee you that I am making contingency plans. Trump wins, and I will be spending a lot more time out of the country. I don't trust Nazis who are given power.