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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Only one fix to that mess IMO. When the smoke clears there wont be a free Palestine because there WONT BE a Palestine. They did this to themselves. Let the chips fall where they may.
    Absolutely repugnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Indeed.

    Elections have consequences.

    The Palestinians made their choice to have a terrorist group represent them.
    A minority of the current population of Gaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    A minority of the current population of Gaza.
    It does not matter.

    Palestinians are controlled by Hamas. They are responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    It does not matter.

    Palestinians are controlled by Hamas. They are responsible.
    That isn't even logical. Maybe SOME are, but not the majority.

    And again - close to 40% of the population are children.

    Your posting regarding this is amoral. And all you're trying to do is make people feel better about the suffering of innocents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    You haven't a clue!
    Do you? No,...you dont. So you have no standing in judging if I have a clue or not when you dont have one yourself. In your own words............NNNNNNEXT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    A minority of the current population of Gaza.
    Even a minority of the population 17 years ago when Hamas assumed power with a little over 40 percent of the vote. The current population not only is a minority of that by now irrelevant electorate but many were not of voting age or even born then, and without the by now deceased or relocated residents. The "elections have consequences" argument is dumb and/or immoral, in Earl's case some of both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Even a minority of the population 17 years ago when Hamas assumed power with a little over percent of the vote. The current population not only is a minority of that by now irrelevant electorate but many were not of voting age or even born then or are still living residents of Palestine. The "elections have consequences" argument is dumb and/or immoral, in Earl's case some of both.
    Thank you. This is exactly right.

    Some of the posting here (and sentiments elsewhere) about the suffering civilian population of Gaza are hard to comprehend. Just complete insensitivity about human life. A lack of empathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The OP who started this thread hasn't one either. The average Palestinian is an average anyone that small minds like the OP demonize because it's easy and they take a kind of satisfaction from misery that doesn't reach them.
    He's definitely in lock step with Trump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    BTW,....the REAL reason the left is so hot to put an end to the IDF in Gaza is because they KNOW that the IDF will find irrefutable links between the money Biden released to Iran and the weapons in Gaza. Oh,.........and quite a bit of black OP stuff dating back to the Obama/Joe/Hillary days and the shit they pulled in Libya running arms into Syria and by extension.....GAZA. Remember.......the left are PURE political creatures. It is NEVER about right or wrong with them,....only what is good or bad for them POLITICALLY and holding power. They could give a shit less about actual TRUTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    A minority of the current population of Gaza.
    Three in four Palestinians support Hamas' massacre: Survey

    Tel Aviv [Israel], November 19 (ANI/TPS): Slightly more than three in four Palestinians have a positive view of Hamas in the wake of its October 7 terrorist attacks in Israel, according to a survey by the Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD) research firm.

    The Ramallah-based institute polled 668 Palestinian adults in the southern Gaza Strip, Judea and Samaria between October 31 and November 7.

    The Palestinian poll--the first of its kind since the October 7 attacks--found that 48.2 per cent of respondents characterise Hamas's role as "very positive," while 27.8 per cent view Hamas as "somewhat positive." Almost 80 per cent regard the role of Hamas's Al-Qassam Brigade's "military" wing as positive.

    Hamas killed more than 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and wounded thousands in the October 7 attack on southern Israel. In addition, terrorists took some 240 people hostage.

    When asked whether they supported or opposed Hamas's actions on October 7, 59.3 per cent of the Palestinians surveyed said they "extremely" supported the attacks and 15.7 per cent said they "somewhat" supported the murderous spree.

    Only 12.7 per cent expressed disapproval, with 10.9 per cent saying they neither supported nor opposed the attack.

    Almost all (98 per cent) of the respondents said the slaughter made them feel "prouder of their identity as Palestinians," with an equal percentage saying they would "never forget and never forgive" the Jewish state for its ongoing military operation against Hamas.

    Three-quarters said that they expect the Israel-Hamas war to end in a Palestinian victory.

    In response to the question "What would you like as a preferred government after the war is finished in the Gaza Strip," 72 per cent said they favour a "national unity government" that includes Hamas and Palestinian Authority chief Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction.

    Approximately 8.5 per cent said they favor a government controlled by the Palestinian Authority.

    In addition, more than 98 per cent of Palestinians surveyed by AWRAD hold negative views of the United States.

    The poll had a margin of error of four percent.

    On November 8, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that Gaza must be handed over to the PA following hostilities. The solution "must include Palestinian-led governance and Gaza unified with the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority," stated Blinken.

    During an October 18 visit to Tel Aviv, US President Joe Biden delivered a speech in which he claimed that "Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people."AWRAD said that "the poll's sample includes all socioeconomic groups, ensuring equal representation of adult men and women, and is proportionately distributed across the West Bank and Gaza." (ANI/TPS)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    Three in four Palestinians support Hamas' massacre: Survey

    Tel Aviv [Israel], November 19 (ANI/TPS): Slightly more than three in four Palestinians have a positive view of Hamas in the wake of its October 7 terrorist attacks in Israel, according to a survey by the Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD) research firm.

    The Ramallah-based institute polled 668 Palestinian adults in the southern Gaza Strip, Judea and Samaria between October 31 and November 7.

    The Palestinian poll--the first of its kind since the October 7 attacks--found that 48.2 per cent of respondents characterise Hamas's role as "very positive," while 27.8 per cent view Hamas as "somewhat positive." Almost 80 per cent regard the role of Hamas's Al-Qassam Brigade's "military" wing as positive.

    Hamas killed more than 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and wounded thousands in the October 7 attack on southern Israel. In addition, terrorists took some 240 people hostage.

    When asked whether they supported or opposed Hamas's actions on October 7, 59.3 per cent of the Palestinians surveyed said they "extremely" supported the attacks and 15.7 per cent said they "somewhat" supported the murderous spree.

    Only 12.7 per cent expressed disapproval, with 10.9 per cent saying they neither supported nor opposed the attack.

    Almost all (98 per cent) of the respondents said the slaughter made them feel "prouder of their identity as Palestinians," with an equal percentage saying they would "never forget and never forgive" the Jewish state for its ongoing military operation against Hamas.

    Three-quarters said that they expect the Israel-Hamas war to end in a Palestinian victory.

    In response to the question "What would you like as a preferred government after the war is finished in the Gaza Strip," 72 per cent said they favour a "national unity government" that includes Hamas and Palestinian Authority chief Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction.

    Approximately 8.5 per cent said they favor a government controlled by the Palestinian Authority.

    In addition, more than 98 per cent of Palestinians surveyed by AWRAD hold negative views of the United States.

    The poll had a margin of error of four percent.

    On November 8, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that Gaza must be handed over to the PA following hostilities. The solution "must include Palestinian-led governance and Gaza unified with the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority," stated Blinken.

    During an October 18 visit to Tel Aviv, US President Joe Biden delivered a speech in which he claimed that "Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people."AWRAD said that "the poll's sample includes all socioeconomic groups, ensuring equal representation of adult men and women, and is proportionately distributed across the West Bank and Gaza." (ANI/TPS)
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    I mean, just imagine in Nazi Germany - someone comes to your door w/ an "in person" poll: do you support or oppose Hitler?

    What do you think you'd say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Rule 14.
    Not even close Bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Thank you. This is exactly right.

    Some of the posting here (and sentiments elsewhere) about the suffering civilian population of Gaza are hard to comprehend. Just complete insensitivity about human life. A lack of empathy.
    Right a lack of empathy and a stuffing of politics.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    BTW,....the REAL reason the left is so hot to put an end to the IDF in Gaza is because they KNOW that the IDF will find irrefutable links between the money Biden released to Iran and the weapons in Gaza. Oh,.........and quite a bit of black OP stuff dating back to the Obama/Joe/Hillary days and the shit they pulled in Libya running arms into Syria and by extension.....GAZA. Remember.......the left are PURE political creatures. It is NEVER about right or wrong with them,....only what is good or bad for them POLITICALLY and holding power. They could give a shit less about actual TRUTH.
    They are afraid they will find American made arms from Afghanistan in Gaza.
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