Faith is not "without evidence" argument

[Into Тhe Night]

^^^
Claims everyone has the burden of proving their opinions but never applies it to himself. Sad.

Once again your flaw of leaping to conclusions without evidence does not serve you well.

No. I don't have an opinion. Atheism is the default position. If you claim to believe in Superman, it's your burden to prove it. You don't demand that I disprove it.

[Damocles]

No. I don't have an opinion. Atheism is the default position. If you claim to believe in Superman, it's your burden to prove it. You don't demand that I disprove it.

Whether Superman is real or not it has never been my responsibility to prove it to you. If Superman were real it would still not be my job to help you understand that he was real. I don't think there are any DC Evangelicals around for you to demand evidence from.

[Doc Dutch]

No. I don't have an opinion. Atheism is the default position. If you claim to believe in Superman, it's your burden to prove it. You don't demand that I disprove it.

Run from it all you like, 'Murica, but you are only fooling yourself when you declare you don't have an opinion.

I'm not seeking to prove anything to you, dumbass. How many times do I have to post you are free to think you are a meat robot of no more or less value alive than dead? The fact you ran from my questions about Might makes Right is all the evidence I need to know you are only fooling yourself with your opinions.

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Whether Superman is real or not it has never been my responsibility to prove it to you. If Superman were real it would still not be my job to help you understand that he was real. I don't think there are any DC Evangelicals around for you to demand evidence from.

You're missing the point. As Christopher Hitchens taught us, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and claims made without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

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Run from it all you like, 'Murica, but you are only fooling yourself when you declare you don't have an opinion.

I'm not seeking to prove anything to you, dumbass. How many times do I have to post you are free to think you are a meat robot of no more or less value alive than dead?

Let's apply Occam's Razor to your god! There are many philosophical debates around the existence of god(s). My solution to these debates is the simplest, which is that god(s) doesn't exist.

Why doesn't prayer work?

Because God doesn't exist.

Why can't I see God?

Because God doesn't exist.

Why does it seem like bad happens to good people? Why is life unfair?

Because God doesn't exist.

See? Occam's Razor.

[Damocles]

You're missing the point. As Christopher Hitchens taught us, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and claims made without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

However, Faith is not generated without evidence. The evidence these folks use is the eyewitness accounts written down in the Bible, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita etc. The Bible, the one that you mock here by calling their Skyfather (not meant in a mocking way, honest) "superman" is almost entirely made up of eyewitness accounts of past events and people. While we may choose not to believe in their veracity, saying there is no evidence is absurd, as a jurist pretending that eyewitness testimony is not evidence would be laughable. Eyewitness testimony is accepted in every court of the land as evidence of crimes, or of alibis.

So, we can measure the weight of the evidence, but saying there is none is just a lie. To me it is not convincing, to you it is not I assume as well, that doesn't change that it is still evidence.

[Doc Dutch]

Let's apply Occam's Razor to your god! There are many philosophical debates around the existence of god(s). My solution to these debates is the simplest, which is that god(s) doesn't exist.

Why doesn't prayer work?

Because God doesn't exist.

Why can't I see God?

Because God doesn't exist.

Why does it seem like bad happens to good people? Why is life unfair?

Because God doesn't exist.

See? Occam's Razor.

GIGO

You leaped to a false conclusion, son. This is why I think you have more in common with Perry PhD and Sybil than sane, more logical people.

[Into Тhe Night]

However, Faith is not generated without evidence

False.

[Into Тhe Night]

GIGO

You leaped to a false conclusion, son. This is why I think you have more in common with Perry PhD and Sybil than sane, more logical people.

You don't understand Occam's Razor?

[Doc Dutch]

You don't understand Occam's Razor?

Yes, I do. Do you know who Perry Phd and Sybil are on the forum?

[Damocles]

False.

A simple lie on your part, built on deliberate ignorance. You delete what you don't want to deal with, then just repeat what was shown to be a false statement. You may find the evidence unconvincing, but it doesn't change that it is evidence.

[Into Тhe Night]

Yes, I do. Do you know who Perry Phd and Sybil are on the forum?

If you understood Occam's Razor, you'd be an atheist.

Let's apply it to Superman:

Why hasn't anyone ever seen Superman save anyone?

Because Superman doesn't exist.

Why doesn't Superman fight terrorists?

Because Superman doesn't exist.

Why won't Superman save your cat from a tree?

Because Superman doesn't exist.

I wrote countless letters to Superman. Why won't he respond?

Because Superman doesn't exist.

[Into Тhe Night]

A simple lie on your part, built on deliberate ignorance. You delete what you don't want to deal with, then just repeat what was shown to be a false statement. You may find the evidence unconvincing, but it doesn't change that it is evidence.

If faith were based on evidence, it wouldn't be faith. Lol. Do I, the atheist, need to remind you of Paul's epistle?

[Doc Dutch]

False.

Then where does faith come from? What is your evidence?

It doesn't require fairies or demons. I have faith you're an idiot and a liar. While the evidence is still building, I have faith, meaning an opinion based upon observable evidence, that I am correct in my assessment of your level of character and personality.

[Damocles]

If faith were based on evidence, it wouldn't be faith. Lol. Do I, the atheist, need to remind you of Paul's epistle?

That is simply incorrect. I have informed you of the reality and you choose to remain purposefully and dutifully ignorant. Believing "without seeing" is not the same thing as believing without evidence. They believe eyewitness reports that you choose to believe are not enough to convince you, but you don't get to choose your own facts and label the evidence as "non existent" because you prefer it that way.

Again, eyewitness accounts are considered evidence in every court in this land, to pretend that they are not evidence to fit in your "there is no evidence at all" assertion is just being purposefully disingenuous, not only to others, but deliberately so to yourself.