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    Default One man resets gun rights debate

    Lets all be honest. This is not the way to combat paranoia:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/...fle/index.html

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    I am not a fan of carrying just to carry. It is asking for trouble and bad PR that we don't need.

    But the Secret Service is not going to allow anyone with a rifle slung on their back into any place the president is speaking.

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    One thing that is different, the pic shows a black man carrying a rifle. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Lets all be honest. This is not the way to combat paranoia:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/...fle/index.html
    IMO it harms the goals of the protest to distract with this kind of thing. People at the protest should just ask the dude to leave, he isn't helping at all.

    I do find it interesting that "weapons are not allowed on a Federal site". The argument we hear is that the 2nd Amendment applies only to the Federal Government... This does not compute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    IMO it harms the goals of the protest to distract with this kind of thing. People at the protest should just ask the dude to leave, he isn't helping at all.
    I fail to see the problem of someone exercising a right. An absolute right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I do find it interesting that "weapons are not allowed on a Federal site". The argument we hear is that the 2nd Amendment applies only to the Federal Government... This does not compute.
    common liberal/anti gun doublespeak.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    I think it serves a purpose by reminding the government that we let them serve us and that can "change" in the blink of an eye, metaphorically. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    I fail to see the problem of someone exercising a right. An absolute right.
    I agree that it is an absolute right. But what happened distracted from the protest message. The man was not arrested or harrassed. But the story became about someone carrying guns and not about fighting a bad piece of legislation. Whether we have the right to do so or not, we also have the intelligence to recognize the end result and consequences of our actions. If the goal was to show that we can exercise our 2nd amendment rights, then carry the rifle. If the goal was to protest Obama's healthcare programs, it was not a smart move.

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    "I came from another state"

    hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    "I came from another state"

    hmmm
    things that make you go hmmmmm?

    wonder what anti gun state he moved from?

    although I'm not surprised by the apoplectic hysterics coming from the anti-gunners and leftist control freaks out there.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    things that make you go hmmmmm?

    wonder what anti gun state he moved from?

    although I'm not surprised by the apoplectic hysterics coming from the anti-gunners and leftist control freaks out there.
    read the article dodo, and you would know.
    If you did know, you would not blow.

    he was from another open carry state.
    So do not your ignorance state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    read the article dodo, and you would know.
    If you did know, you would not blow.

    he was from another open carry state.
    So do not your ignorance state.
    don't quit your day job. you'll never make it as a poet.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    don't quit your day job. you'll never make it as a poet.
    too late I quit last year.


    No need to work any longer.

    Don't want to address the issue, just attack the messenger?
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    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    Lets all be honest. This is not the way to combat paranoia:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/...fle/index.html
    It's not about paranoia.

    It's about a gun owner's need to show off their surrogate penis in an attempt to try and make up for the tiny penis God gave them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    things that make you go hmmmmm?

    wonder what anti gun state he moved from?

    although I'm not surprised by the apoplectic hysterics coming from the anti-gunners and leftist control freaks out there.
    Yeah, Beefy's post was down right apoplectic! And the hysteria he displayed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    It's not about paranoia.

    It's about a gun owner's need to show off their surrogate penis in an attempt to try and make up for the tiny penis God gave them.
    OH NOES!!!! insulting the gun carriers manhood.

    equating carrying a gun with penis size is retarded.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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