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    Default Un-American' attacks can't derail health care debate

    well well, not only is our Democrat (Progressive) Reps. calling the poeple they represent mobs, kooks, disruptors, now they are calling us UN-AMERCIANS...how bout that..
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    By Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer


    Americans have been waiting for nearly a century for quality, affordable health care.


    Health coverage for all was on the national agenda as early as 1912, thanks to

    Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose presidential run. Months after

    World War II came to an end in 1945,

    President Harry Truman called on Congress to guarantee all Americans the "right to adequate medical care and protection from the economic fears of sickness." From President

    Lyndon Johnson to

    President Bill Clinton, to President

    Obama's winning campaign on the promise of reform, there hasn't been a more debated domestic issue than the promise of affordable health care for all.


    (Steny Hoyer/USA TODAY)

    (Nancy Pelosi/USA TODAY)



    We believe it is healthy for such a historic effort to be subject to so much scrutiny and debate. The failure of past attempts is a reminder that health insurance reform is a defining moment in our nation's history — it is well worth the time it takes to get it right. We are confident that we will get this right.

    Already, three House committees have passed this critical legislation and over August, the two of us will work closely with those three committees to produce one strong piece of legislation that the House will approve in September.

    In the meantime, as members of Congress spend time at home during August, they are talking with their constituents about reform. The dialogue between elected representatives and constituents is at the heart of our democracy and plays an integral role in assuring that the legislation we write reflects the genuine needs and concerns of the people we represent.

    However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue. These tactics have included hanging in effigy one Democratic member of Congress in Maryland and protesters holding a sign displaying a tombstone with the name of another congressman in Texas, where protesters also shouted "Just say no!" drowning out those who wanted to hold a substantive discussion.

    Let the facts be heard

    These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.

    Health care is complex. It touches every American life. It drives our economy. People must be allowed to learn the facts.

    The first fact is that health insurance reform will mean more patient choice. It will allow every American who likes his or her current plan to keep it. And it will free doctors and patients to make the health decisions that make the most sense, not the most profits for insurance companies.

    Reform will mean stability and peace of mind for the middle class. Never again will medical bills drive Americans into bankruptcy; never again will Americans be in danger of losing coverage if they lose their jobs or if they become sick; never again will insurance companies be allowed to deny patients coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

    Lower costs, better care

    Reform will mean affordable coverage for all Americans. Our plan's cost-lowering measures include a public health insurance option to bring competitive pressure to bear on rapidly consolidating private insurers, research on health outcomes to better inform the decisions of patients and doctors, and electronic medical records to help doctors save money by working together. For seniors, the plan closes the notorious Medicare Part D "doughnut hole" that denies drug coverage to those with between $2,700 and $6,100 per year in prescriptions.

    Reform will also mean higher-quality care by promoting preventive care so health problems can be addressed before they become crises. This, too, will save money. We'll be a much healthier country if all patients can receive regular checkups and tests, such as mammograms and diabetes exams, without paying a dime out-of-pocket.

    This month, despite the disruptions, members of Congress will listen to their constituents back home and explain reform legislation. We are confident that our principles of affordable, quality health care will stand up to any and all critics.

    Now — with Americans strongly supporting health insurance reform, with Congress reaching consensus on a plan, and with a president who ran and won on this specific promise of change — America is closer than ever to this century-deferred goal.

    This fall, at long last, we must reach it.


    Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is speaker of the House and

    Steny Hoyer, D-Md., is House majority leader.


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    Quote Originally Posted by meme View Post
    The failure of past attempts is a reminder that health insurance reform is a defining moment in our nation's history —


    is this bitch retarded? healthcare reform is a defining moment in our nation, because it has failed in the past?

    Somthing that hasn't happened is all the sudden a defining moment in our nation? WTF. That's retarded.

    And to add retardation, it's somehow defining because it has failed?

    These people are dumber than shit.

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    Who writes this slop.

    it's sad that a legislator took time to write this and this document of shit thought is what they came up with.

    Fishy alert!

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    America is a stupid country, full of lots of really stupid people.

    All industrialized nations on the planet have nationalized healthcare with healthcare systems far better then ours. Yet, somehow we can't figure out hoiw to do what all the rest of the world can do .. without a single nation wishing to get rid of their nationalized system where healthcare is a human right.

    America is a stupid country, full of lots of really stupid people.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    we already figured that out, they helped elect the "Hugo Obama"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by meme View Post
    we already figured that out, they helped elect the "Hugo Obama"..
    Incredibly dumb ass people.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    America is a stupid country, full of lots of really stupid people.

    All industrialized nations on the planet have nationalized healthcare with healthcare systems far better then ours. Yet, somehow we can't figure out hoiw to do what all the rest of the world can do .. without a single nation wishing to get rid of their nationalized system where healthcare is a human right.

    America is a stupid country, full of lots of really stupid people.
    England and France have a fraction of our murder rates. And while we have more college grads I have to agree with you as a whole we are full of stupid people.
    The stone that the builder refused
    Will always be the head corner stone

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    sheesh, when you people don't get your way, you resort to calling people names...so adult like..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    America is a stupid country, full of lots of really stupid people.

    All industrialized nations on the planet have nationalized healthcare with healthcare systems far better then ours. Yet, somehow we can't figure out hoiw to do what all the rest of the world can do .. without a single nation wishing to get rid of their nationalized system where healthcare is a human right.

    America is a stupid country, full of lots of really stupid people.
    So being like everyone else is a priority for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topspin View Post
    England and France have a fraction of our murder rates. And while we have more college grads I have to agree with you as a whole we are full of stupid people.
    It's a sad reality brother.

    The greatest prison nation in human history with a population of invented and easily controlled morons.

    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    So being like everyone else is a priority for you?
    Being intelligent is a priority for me. Someone else having travelled an intelligent course first is no impediment to travelling an intelligent course.

    I don't believe in American "exceptionalism" no more than I believe in "chosen people."

    Are you of the belief that the framers didn't include foreign concepts of government in crafting the government you live under?
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Being intelligent is a priority for me. Someone else having travelled an intelligent course first is no impediment to travelling an intelligent course.

    I don't believe in American "exceptionalism" no more than I believe in "chosen people."

    Are you of the belief that the framers didn't include foreign concepts of government in crafting the government you live under?
    But that's not an intelligent course.

    You aspire to dumness! lol. tardo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Incredibly dumb ass people.
    And getting dumber every year due to the Democrat run public school system. But it serves their purpose, to keep Democrats in power at the expense of freedom. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    But that's not an intelligent course.

    You aspire to dumness! lol. tardo.
    OH .. excuse me.

    For a moment I forgot who I was talking to and engaged you as if you actually had a brain.

    My bad. :0(
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    OH .. excuse me.

    For a moment I forgot who I was talking to and engaged you as if you actually had a brain.

    My bad. :0(
    Your argument is the "everyone else is doing it" argument. That's brainless.

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