FBI formally refuses to produce Biden probe memo to Congress

[T. A. Gardner]

What do you mean they can't? They've done exactly that more than once.

Legally, they can't. Reality wise, they do. Kind of makes you wonder WTF the executive branch alphabet soup is doing that gives them that sort of power, doesn't it?

[Lightbringer]

Legally, they can't. Reality wise, they do. Kind of makes you wonder WTF the executive branch alphabet soup is doing that gives them that sort of power, doesn't it?

It's always been this way. You didn't think the Iran-Contra hearings were about getting to the truth did you? Oliver North was a distraction, much like the WEF and climate change is a distraction.

Gowdy's hearings were a distraction. Covid was a distraction.

They ain't doing shit to Wray and it doesn't matter if it's 2023 or 1823...business as usual.

[T. A. Gardner]

It's always been this way. You didn't think the Iran-Contra hearings were about getting to the truth did you? Oliver North was a distraction, much like the WEF and climate change is a distraction.

Gowdy's hearings were a distraction. Covid was a distraction.

They ain't doing shit to Wray and it doesn't matter if it's 2023 or 1823...business as usual.

Jan 6 was a distraction...

Nothing new...

[LurchAddams]

False equivalence. What other things Comer has or hasn't done has no bearing on the LEGAL responsibility a government agency has to produce documents for a Congressional committee when subpoenaed for them. It isn't a choice. The agency is legally required to cough them up, like it or not. The agency can't say "No, we won't give them to you." Government employees, likewise, have no choice but to appear.

The only out is the Lois Learner route. Resign or retire to avoid the subpoena and then take the 5th.

I disagree. I feel Wray has a legal responsibility to protect confidential information and sources from nuts like Comer.

Funny you and your fellow lib-bashers were singing a totally different tune when trump loyalists and officials were ducking subpoenas and refusing to turn over documents to the 1/6 committee. I guess you feel congress should have held Steve Minuchin in contempt for withholding trump's subpoenaed tax returns?

It's your fellow lib-bashers that set the precedent for ducking subpoenas and refusing to turn over documents. Don't say you weren't warned.

[T. A. Gardner]

I disagree. I feel Wray has a legal responsibility to protect confidential information and sources from nuts like Comer.

Wrong. As a government employee Wray has a legal duty to turn over the subpoenaed information, like it or not. There is no choice involved. Now, Wray can quit and not do it, but legally he has ZERO choice but to cough it up.
The EPA has gone that route too on source information. They don't want Republicans (this is past not present as a case) seeing how they make decisions and come to conclusions on regulations because they know their data is phony.

Funny you and your fellow lib-bashers were singing a totally different tune when trump loyalists and officials were ducking subpoenas and refusing to turn over documents to the 1/6 committee. I guess you feel congress should have held Steve Minuchin in contempt for withholding trump's subpoenaed tax returns?

Trump's tax returns are personal information and specifically protected by the Freedom of Information Act, as are yours and mine. Different thing from a government produced document held by a government agency, overseen by a government employee.

It's your fellow lib-bashers that set the precedent for ducking subpoenas and refusing to turn over documents. Don't say you weren't warned.

No, you are tossing out a red herring. But both sides do it to one degree or another, only the Left and Democrats are far, far worse at doing it.

[LurchAddams]

Wrong. As a government employee Wray has a legal duty to turn over the subpoenaed information, like it or not. There is no choice involved. Now, Wray can quit and not do it, but legally he has ZERO choice but to cough it up.
The EPA has gone that route too on source information. They don't want Republicans (this is past not present as a case) seeing how they make decisions and come to conclusions on regulations because they know their data is phony.



Trump's tax returns are personal information and specifically protected by the Freedom of Information Act, as are yours and mine. Different thing from a government produced document held by a government agency, overseen by a government employee.



No, you are tossing out a red herring. But both sides do it to one degree or another, only the Left and Democrats are far, far worse at doing it.

You don't get to decide when people and officials are legally required to show up to testify and submit documents when requested or what congress has the right to see. Your opinion that trump's tax returns should be kept private from congress while confidential informants and methods should be revealed is pretty whacky. You only want information revealed when you think it hurts your political enemies.

Finally, the Freedom of Information Act, or "FOIA" protects Americans' access TO information not FROM it. You should check your sources.

[T. A. Gardner]

You don't get to decide when people and officials are legally required to show up to testify and submit documents when requested or what congress has the right to see. Your opinion that trump's tax returns should be kept private from congress while confidential informants and methods should be revealed is pretty whacky. You only want information revealed when you think it hurts your political enemies.

Finally, the Freedom of Information Act, or "FOIA" protects Americans' access TO information not FROM it. You should check your sources.

Congress does when it's a government agency, government employee, or government document.

https://www.findlaw.com/litigation/l...penalties.html

The FOIA also protects certain information from disclosure under the Privacy Act.

[LurchAddams]

Congress does when it's a government agency, government employee, or government document.

https://www.findlaw.com/litigation/l...penalties.html

Not sure how your post is responsive. I'll just say again, it's ironic that you're complaining about officials ducking subpoenas and refusing to show up to testify and not doing so when it was trumptards in the crosshairs. Anyone wringing their hands over people ignoring Comer demonstrates severe naivete. Your claim that Democrats ignore legalities more than trumptards is not surprising given your hatred of anything Democrat. Given how it was Republicans under trump who tried to overthrow our government just a couple of years ago, I can't imagine how anyone can claim Democrats can be corrupt when they are the only ones trying to bring the traitors who attacked us to justice.

[T. A. Gardner]

Not sure how your post is responsive. I'll just say again, it's ironic that you're complaining about officials ducking subpoenas and refusing to show up to testify and not doing so when it was trumptards in the crosshairs. Anyone wringing their hands over people ignoring Comer demonstrates severe naivete. Your claim that Democrats ignore legalities more than trumptards is not surprising given your hatred of anything Democrat. Given how it was Republicans under trump who tried to overthrow our government just a couple of years ago, I can't imagine how anyone can claim Democrats can be corrupt when they are the only ones trying to bring the traitors who attacked us to justice.

A tu quoque response does nothing to change or challenge my assertion.



You sound like that...

[LurchAddams]

A tu quoque response does nothing to change or challenge my assertion.



You sound like that...

Yep, you lost the argument. I'm so sorry that hurts your feelings.

[Earl]

Yep, you lost the argument. I'm so sorry that hurts your feelings.

No, you lost.

T.A. makes you look like a novice.

[Earl]

The House has oversight responsibilities over the FBI.

What is Wray hiding?

We all know, evidence of the corruption and bribery of Biden.

[Concart]

And now? Nothing. It's a dog and pony show. Stupid people are easily distracted. Want proof? It worked on volsrock, and he is a fucking moron.

[LurchAddams]

No, you lost.

T.A. makes you look like a novice.

Oh, look! It's the thread-banner! I'm sure TA appreciates your support

[saltydancin]

The FBI has to answer to Congress. Congress could easily keep the document and its contents under seal allowing only the committee to see it and not make it public. Congress has that right under law as a watchdog over what the executive branch is doing. Checks and balances. What the FBI is doing is avoiding their legal duty by a weak equivocation.

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