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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Did Biden lay a wreath on the tomb of the Unknown Asthmatic High School Football Player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    My uncle was shot down over Belgium, and is buried in Ardennes American Cemetery and Memorial

    His military occupation or specialty was Left Waist Gunner, Attached to 491st Bomber Group, Heavy, 853rd Bomber Squadron. He was only 19 years old.
    Dad was a pilot. 13 missions and his plane was hit on three of those. Last one he had to bail and was captured. Went on two forced marches as the Allies closed in. To suggest he did something wrong is disgusting beyond the pale. He was messed up for life. These people are beneath contempt. Flying B-17s was hell on earth. Forty below for eight hours with fighter and antiaircraft trying to knock you out of the sky. If you haven’t yet watch the HBO documentary it’s absolutely gripping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Let's not forget on Memorial Day: someone who served as CIC said this about brave soldiers who put themselves in harm's way for this country, and went through the ordeal of being a prisoner of war.

    And he's the frontrunner for the GOP in '24. For a voting base who USED to proclaim that they were more pro-military than the other side.
    Only the most mentally incompetent persons would call leftists pro military
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Dad was a pilot. 13 missions and his plane was hit on three of those. Last one he had to bail and was captured. Went on two forced marches as the Allies closed in. To suggest he did something wrong is disgusting beyond the pale. He was messed up for life. These people are beneath contempt. Flying B-17s was hell on earth. Forty below for eight hours with fighter and antiaircraft trying to knock you out of the sky. If you haven’t yet watch the HBO documentary it’s absolutely gripping.
    Flying in bombers was some of the most dangerous jobs in the military. Check out the Thunderbolt vs Mustang escort controversy. Basically they COULD have used the Thunderbolt to escort the B17 bombers it would have saved American lives. Some in the Air Force were convinced B17 could defend themselves. The Thunderbolts had available drop tanks that could give them the needed range. The B17 can defend themselves supporters and would not allow Thunderbolts with drop tanks to be used. When the P47 Mustang came along it was obvious that the B 17s could not defend themselves adequately from German fighters. They acted like it was the first time that we had a solution to the problem. Thousands of fliers died or were captured that did not need to be if they had used the Thunderbolt with drop tanks earlier.
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    This message is hidden because ExpressLane is on your ignore list.

    I own you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The vast majority of POW's are not taken as individuals, but as part of a larger group that surrenders under terms. Individuals taken prisoner more often than not end up dead in the process. That's a fact. I don't think the fact someone was a POW should be rewarded. Acknowledged, yes. Held against them, no. But you don't reward it.

    You don't give them a medal for being captured .
    Do you also propose eliminating the purple heart as an award?

    Because in your logical framework, getting wounded is a failure as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Do you also propose eliminating the purple heart as an award?

    Because in your logical framework, getting wounded is a failure as well.
    No, I propose eliminating the POW medal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Dad was a pilot. 13 missions and his plane was hit on three of those. Last one he had to bail and was captured. Went on two forced marches as the Allies closed in. To suggest he did something wrong is disgusting beyond the pale. He was messed up for life. These people are beneath contempt. Flying B-17s was hell on earth. Forty below for eight hours with fighter and antiaircraft trying to knock you out of the sky. If you haven’t yet watch the HBO documentary it’s absolutely gripping.
    Thank you for the suggestion.

    These people are beneath contempt, deplorables. Anyone serving like my uncle, my father, your father, my husband and every POW, Gold Star and Remington Raider, served honorably.

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    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8693770/

    I never knew how bad it really was until I watched. Very well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No, I propose eliminating the POW medal
    That sounds neither logical nor principled.

    Explain in a persuasive way why wounded soldiers should get a medal while soldiers who are held captive shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Thank you for the suggestion.

    These people are beneath contempt, deplorables. Anyone serving like my uncle, my father, your father, my husband and every POW, Gold Star and Remington Raider, served honorably.
    Here's the actual link to a youtube of the entire film.


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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    At least I have orders proving I got combat pay, do you have anything like that?

    McCain's mission failed because he was shot down and failed to bomb the target in Hanoi he was assigned to bomb. His survival is just cutting losses.
    No you don’t you shitty russian bot hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Only the most mentally incompetent persons would call leftists pro military
    Is that why the republicans wanted to cut VA funding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Did Biden lay a wreath on the tomb of the Unknown Asthmatic High School Football Player?
    Did either trump son serve you idiot


    Here you are trashing families of those who served and sacrificed


    Traitor

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