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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    The MAGA trolls and similar ilk can't help themselves....he'll try to come off as rational and intelligent, but eventually his own BS trips him up, and he just bluffs and blusters.
    He does come off as rational and intelligent.

    You, not so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Odd, law was the recommended undergrad major for every lawyer I know.
    there was no such thing as a "law" undergrad....there may now be a "pre law" undergrad degree....there wasn't then......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    there was no such thing as a "law" undergrad....there may now be a "pre law" undergrad degree....there wasn't then......
    Really?

    There are a whole lot of institutions you better inform of this.

    https://law.ucla.edu/academics/degrees

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You are mentally ill.
    And you're still a liar. See this is the kind of thread and post I was talking to you about yesterday. As long as you make asinine posts and threads I'll be there to comment in them.
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    My favorite, Senator Kennedy, who went to Oxford, but now talks like Foghog Leghorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    The MAGA trolls and similar ilk can't help themselves....he'll try to come off as rational and intelligent, but eventually his own BS trips him up, and he just bluffs and blusters.
    I know right? That Biden is a freaking moron. Claimed to have graduated at the top of his law school class but was 75th out of 80 or something very close to that. Talk about bluster, Brandon has a PhD(poor hopeless dope) in that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post

    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    The MAGA trolls and similar ilk can't help themselves....he'll try to come off as rational and intelligent, but eventually his own BS trips him up, and he just bluffs and blusters.

    I know right? That Biden is a freaking moron. Claimed to have graduated at the top of his law school class but was 75th out of 80 or something very close to that. Talk about bluster, Brandon has a PhD(poor hopeless dope) in that
    Stop babbling like a MAGA troll on crack.

    Post #118 seems to have shut down your compadre to date. Care to pick up that gauntlet or continue to blow smoke?
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    5. Walmart Greeter
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    3. Gardener
    2. Barista
    1. History Teacher
    6. Governor of Florida, DeSantis
    7. VP, Pence.
    8. Speaker of the House, Gengrich
    9. President, George W Bush
    10 Prime Minister, Churchill.

    There are a lot of history majors walking around. It is a good stepping stone for other degrees, or just for the rest of your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    In most cases, a BA in liberal arts will NOT qualify one for STEM or Business related graduate courses.... You certainly can NOT use a BA in history to get into a masters of mechanical engineering program.
    A friend of mine went from a BA in Medieval French Literature to a masters in Computer Science. He did have a strong minor in Computer Science. Getting a masters in Mechanical Engineering would usually require an undergraduate degree in Mechanical Engineering, or a lot of undergraduate courses to catch up.

    BA's often will get you into business related graduate degrees. Romney got an MBA and Juris Doctor with only a BA in English.
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    trump is a child rapist. We all know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    People who work with me address me a "Doctor."
    That is cruel of them. Sure your a little funny(not in a haha way), but they should not be so sarcastic with you.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
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    trump is a child rapist. We all know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Almost all of them didn't go because they were academically qualified geniuses either. They went because they had the money and connections to get in, do shitty in terms of academics usually taking some lop, loser, easy liberal arts degree, and graduate.
    Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc. did not have a lot of money or connections. They went because they worked hard... Thought honestly Biden did not work hard enough to go to an Ivy League. Meanwhile, trump needed every bit of money and family connection he had just to go undergraduate. There was not enough money and connections in the world to get him into a graduate program.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
    Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
    Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
    trump is a child rapist. We all know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    It started in earnest with the Carter administration. There is no reason whatsoever that the federal government needed to be involved in education. It isn't a federal issue. Ever since that point, education in the US has been in decline while growing grotesquely more expensive. There's a smattering of idiocy by the federal government prior to that, but it was formalizing a cabinet level post and department that really got education rolling downhill towards utter and complete mediocrity.

    https://www.politico.com/agenda/stor...istory-000235/
    https://www.heritage.org/education/r...ment-education
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/02/19...ssive-failure/
    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/j...why-he-failed/
    In fact, having an education that is comparable and transferrable across state lines is a great idea. Our educational system should be national. A person educated in Mississippi should be able to work in New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc. did not have a lot of money or connections. They went because they worked hard... Thought honestly Biden did not work hard enough to go to an Ivy League. Meanwhile, trump needed every bit of money and family connection he had just to go undergraduate. There was not enough money and connections in the world to get him into a graduate program.
    Biden got lucky. He was elected initially on a fluke, then used his incumbency to stay in office. As a student he was unexceptional, a cheat, and could be characterized as marginal at best. Biden didn't go to an Ivy league school because he lacked the connections through family others had, and he was too fucking stupid to get in on his academic record.

    Obama, didn't work hard, he barely worked at all. What he had going for him was crazy charisma that charmed those listening to him. As a student Obama was quite successful. As a producer of anything useful, he was a total failure. His biggest success--and I can't fault him for it, because it's what he did best--was getting elected, repeatedly.

    Clinton was, likewise quite smart. He knew how to talk up a situation and was about as slimy an eel as they come. Of the three, he was easily the best at switching positions and directions to maintain success.

    Obama couldn't manage that. Once he lost Congress, he was worthless as a leader outside of rabble rousing with a speech. Biden, on the other hand, stayed under the radar so-to-speak for decades in the senate where he was well known as a mostly harmless idiot.

    Trump appears to be the usual money buys your way into college and you graduate eventually guy, like George Bush, John McCain, Al Gore, and a plethora of other politicians with family connections got. Trump, like other business types, didn't bother with graduate work simply because it was unnecessary and would distract from making money. Look at the tech leaders of our time. Virtually all of them got a Batchelor's in something and that was that.

    On the other hand, Biden, Obama, and Clinton all got simple liberal arts degrees as undergraduates then went to liar---err, law school and became liars-- err, lawyers, another simple liberal arts degree. That was their--and the usual--route into politics. None of the three ever practiced law as a profession successfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Biden got lucky. He was elected initially on a fluke, then used his incumbency to stay in office. As a student he was unexceptional, a cheat, and could be characterized as marginal at best. Biden didn't go to an Ivy league school because he lacked the connections through family others had, and he was too fucking stupid to get in on his academic record.

    Obama, didn't work hard, he barely worked at all. What he had going for him was crazy charisma that charmed those listening to him. As a student Obama was quite successful. As a producer of anything useful, he was a total failure. His biggest success--and I can't fault him for it, because it's what he did best--was getting elected, repeatedly.

    Clinton was, likewise quite smart. He knew how to talk up a situation and was about as slimy an eel as they come. Of the three, he was easily the best at switching positions and directions to maintain success.

    Obama couldn't manage that. Once he lost Congress, he was worthless as a leader outside of rabble rousing with a speech. Biden, on the other hand, stayed under the radar so-to-speak for decades in the senate where he was well known as a mostly harmless idiot.

    Trump appears to be the usual money buys your way into college and you graduate eventually guy, like George Bush, John McCain, Al Gore, and a plethora of other politicians with family connections got. Trump, like other business types, didn't bother with graduate work simply because it was unnecessary and would distract from making money. Look at the tech leaders of our time. Virtually all of them got a Batchelor's in something and that was that.

    On the other hand, Biden, Obama, and Clinton all got simple liberal arts degrees as undergraduates then went to liar---err, law school and became liars-- err, lawyers, another simple liberal arts degree. That was their--and the usual--route into politics. None of the three ever practiced law as a profession successfully.
    All you do is whine. And, my god, nobody believes your lie about having an MA in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Why are Nazi democrats such fucking liars?

    No conservative "bashes" education - you're just lying - as you always do.
    Calling people Nazi's is stupid- So why do you do it?

    We are all forum friends here, but we should not be calling our friends Nazi's!

    Nazi's are White Supremacists!

    And just because White Supremacists vote with the Republicans- DOES NOT MEAN REPUBLICANS ARE ALL NAZI'S EITHER.

    Can we please tone this demonization of our political adversaries down please! EVERYONE!

    If you insist on insulting your forum friends- insult them accurately PLEASE!

    And Thank You in advance!
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