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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    Well you are obviously extremely intelligent so I am sure you’ve studied his work on the general relativity theory which encompasses far more then just his famous equation

    However since some people here might be interested in this but don’t know his work I am going to generalize

    Einstein believed the universe was static and unchanging even though his equations were telling him different so he looked into it and couldn’t figure it out and this would ultimately lead to the birth of quantum physics

    But these unknown variables threatened his theory of relativity so he came up with a new equation called the cosmological constant which simply says that there is a form of dark energy out there that would account for the flaws in his equation’s

    He essentially just made this up on the spot with no proof whatsoever

    Shortly after he published the theory of relativity the Shroedinger cat lesson came out which essentially says that if you put a cat in a box and put something in there to kill it that the cat is not alive or dead until you open the box and observe it

    Einstein hated this lesson and went out of his way to debunk it because it showed that things happen in the universe that have no explanation and that negates most of his theories on relativity

    I’m fact, most of Einsteins theories have been proven wrong and all he really ever did was produce one little mathematical equation

    He was however a great self promoter and loved the fame he received but it is rumored that he didn’t even come up with that equation but that his wife did who was a schooled mathematician herself
    Is this Tinkerpeach's version of "Drunk History?"
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The irony is that Einstein was a pioneer in what later came to be called quantum physics, but he became reticent to buy into the ideas of Bohr and Shroedinger.
    This is because there really isn't any such thing as "quantum physics." There is "quantum mechanics" and it is math, not physics. Quantum mechanics has no ability to predict, only to identify probabilities. Casinos use the same mechanics to determine the odds/payouts of their games. However, this is all that is available for discussion of the quantum world.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Is this Tinkerpeach's version of "Drunk History?"
    I loved that show!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    This is because there really isn't any such thing as "quantum physics." There is "quantum mechanics" and it is math, not physics. Quantum mechanics has no ability to predict, only to identify probabilities. Casinos use the same mechanics to determine the odds/payouts of their games. However, this is all that is available for discussion of the quantum world.
    You know almost nothing about science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    Einstein believed the universe was static and unchanging even though his equations were telling him different so he looked into it and couldn’t figure it out and this would ultimately lead to the birth of quantum physics
    You've got to be kidding me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    But these unknown variables threatened his theory of relativity
    1. Nothing threatened Relativity
    2. If something had threatened Relativity, Einstein would have altered Relativity to account for the new information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    so he came up with a new equation called the cosmological constant which simply says that there is a form of dark energy out there that would account for the flaws in his equation’s. He essentially just made this up on the spot with no proof whatsoever
    Let me explain to you how it works.

    1. A constant is not an equation, it is a constant. This means it is a numerical value that does not change. Pi is an example of a constant; its value is 3.14159... and never changes.
    2. Constants are not arbitrary and are not "made up on the spot." Constants are "factored out" of other combined values.
    3. Einstein never mentioned "dark matter." The concept came about well after his death.
    4. There were no flaws in Einstein's equations, at least none that anyone has yet discovered
    5. No proof is needed for any science theory to come into existence. Once a science theory exists, others try to disprove it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    Shortly after he published the theory of relativity the Shroedinger cat lesson came out which essentially says that if you put a cat in a box and put something in there to kill it that the cat is not alive or dead until you open the box and observe it
    ... which is a really crappy explanation of the subject matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    Einstein hated this lesson and went out of his way to debunk it
    Incorrect. Einstein simply noted that quantum mechanics isn't physics; it's math. It bothered Einstein that QM did not describe an underlying object-oriented (my wording) reality and that merely reducing nature to a series of probabilities was silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    I’m fact, most of Einsteins theories have been proven wrong
    You're not the first fundamentalist "out there" Christian to make this claim. Would you mind elaborating on why/how you came to believe this? I would appreciate it greatly. You didn't arrive at this conclusion by running a demonstration that falsifies any of Einstein's science because nobody has ... yet you vehemently insist that this has happened. Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    and all he really ever did was produce one little mathematical equation
    He did a lot more than that ... although any one of his "equations" is a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    it is rumored that he didn’t even come up with that equation but that his wife did who was a schooled mathematician herself
    ... and you know the rule, just because it's a rumor doesn't mean that it isn't true.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You know almost nothing about science.
    This coming from the guy who knows absolutely nothing about science.

    Don't be afraid to come to me with the hard stuff.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    This coming from the guy who knows absolutely nothing about science.

    Don't be afraid to come to me with the hard stuff.
    You are an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You are an idiot.
    You are a genius.

    Now we're both liars.

    Go learn something. I haven't the vaguest idea why you would want to compete against Nordberg.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    You are a genius.

    Now we're both liars.

    Go learn something. I haven't the vaguest idea why you would want to compete against Nordberg.
    duhhh quantum mechanics is not physics duhhhhhhh

    You are a fucking moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    duhhh quantum mechanics is not physics duhhhhhhh
    Correct. Quantum mechanics is math. You would do right by yourself to learn something about both science and math instead of remaining relegated to ignorant raving on either/both.

    You are a fucking moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    Correct. Quantum mechanics is math. You would do right by yourself to learn something about both science and math instead of remaining relegated to ignorant raving on either/both.

    You are a fucking moron.
    you're stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerpeach View Post
    If quantum fluctuations exist that means Einsteins theory that humans cannot exceed the speed of light is wrong

    His theory is predicated on the fact that all of space exists in a vacuum

    Einstein really, really struggled with quantum mechanics and the few times he did debate it he turned out to be wrong

    Especially on things like quantum entanglement which he said absolutely could not exist

    He gets far more credit than he deserves, he was actually kind of a stubborn idiot who got lucky once
    You have to read between the lines, Edward Tryon can't come out and say the universe is a timeless square peg, so he tried to force it through the round hole of string theory. Physics will eventually have to separate time from space, Tryon had the courage to write about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    "It was Albert Einstein who suggested that light did not behave exactly a wave or a particle. Instead, light behaves as both wave and particle. Einstein’s theory became known as the wave-particle duality of light, and is now fully accepted by modern scientists."

    https://earthsky.org/human-world/fir...%20same%20time.
    Actually Louis Debroglie was the first to propose wave-particle duality based on the double slit experiments which more directly pointed to wave particle duality as opposed to the Photoelectric Effect which more accurately points to QUANTIZED ENERGY states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    Nobody has proved that atoms exist. Nothing is ever confirmed or proven true in science.

    Dalton merely theorized discrete particles to explain chemical behavior. His models have not been falsified. This does not mean they have somehow been confirmed.
    I'd say Thompson's gold foil experiment did a pretty good job of it along with Einstein's Brownian Motion work. And then there's TEM's which seem to show they are real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Dalton had a hypothesis.

    Einstein's Brownian motion paper was a confirmation of atomic motion
    Fair enough.

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