Is the Universe a quantum fluctuation?

[Cypress]

Perhaps the whole Universe is the result of a vacuum fluctuation, originating from what we could call quantum nothingness.

In quantum mechanics, there is no zero-energy state. There is only the lowest possible energy state of a system, its ground state. Now, if there is an inherent uncertainty in the energy of a system, then the energy of the ground state can fluctuate. If we call this ground state a quantum vacuum, it follows that the quantum vacuum always has some structure to it. There is no such thing as a true vacuum in the sense of complete emptiness. Quantum mechanics forbids nothingness.

If there are energy fluctuations in a quantum vacuum, very interesting things can happen. For example, the E = mc2 relation tells us that energy and matter are interconvertible. A vacuum energy fluctuation can be converted into particles of matter. Sounds weird? Maybe, but it happens all the time. These particles are called virtual particles, living a fleeting existence before plunging back into the ever-busy quantum vacuum.

Physicist Edward Tryon extrapolated the idea of quantum fluctuations to the Universe as a whole. He reasoned that if all that existed was a quantum vacuum, a bubble-like energy fluctuation out of this vacuum could have given rise to the Universe. Tryon proposed that the whole Universe is the result of a vacuum fluctuation, originating from what we could call quantum nothingness.

Tryon’s proposal falls into the category of universes with a beginning, but created out of nothing. However, nothingness here, as well as in all the other examples of quantum-created universes that followed Tryon’s inspiring idea, must be understood in terms of quantum mechanical nothingness, and not from an absolute nothingness that translates to complete emptiness. In physics you simply cannot get something out of nothing. Creation ex nihilo is not the way of nature.

https://bigthink.com/13-8/universe-quantum-fluctuation/

[Tinkerpeach]

If quantum fluctuations exist that means Einsteins theory that humans cannot exceed the speed of light is wrong

His theory is predicated on the fact that all of space exists in a vacuum

Einstein really, really struggled with quantum mechanics and the few times he did debate it he turned out to be wrong

Especially on things like quantum entanglement which he said absolutely could not exist

He gets far more credit than he deserves, he was actually kind of a stubborn idiot who got lucky once

[Cypress]

If quantum fluctuations exist that means Einsteins theory that humans cannot exceed the speed of light is wrong

His theory is predicated on the fact that all of space exists in a vacuum

Einstein really, really struggled with quantum mechanics and the few times he did debate it he turned out to be wrong

Especially on things like quantum entanglement which he said absolutely could not exist

He gets far more credit than he deserves, he was actually kind of a stubborn idiot who got lucky once

I don't think vacuum energy has anything to do with violations of the speed of light.

Most scientists do their best work before age 40.

Einstein was hung up on the idea of determinism and thus lagged behind in the cutting edge thinking on quantum mechanics by the late 1920s and 30s.


Einstein didn't get lucky just once. He was the author of landmark ideas and papers on the photoelectric effect, Brownian motion, special relativity, and general relativity. Any one of those papers alone would have launched a scientist into the top tier of physics of the day.

[AProudLefty]

If quantum fluctuations exist that means Einsteins theory that humans cannot exceed the speed of light is wrong

His theory is predicated on the fact that all of space exists in a vacuum

Einstein really, really struggled with quantum mechanics and the few times he did debate it he turned out to be wrong

Especially on things like quantum entanglement which he said absolutely could not exist

He gets far more credit than he deserves, he was actually kind of a stubborn idiot who got lucky once

Your error is thinking in terms of sizes.

[goat]

If quantum fluctuations exist that means Einsteins theory that humans cannot exceed the speed of light is wrong

His theory is predicated on the fact that all of space exists in a vacuum

Einstein really, really struggled with quantum mechanics and the few times he did debate it he turned out to be wrong

Especially on things like quantum entanglement which he said absolutely could not exist

He gets far more credit than he deserves, he was actually kind of a stubborn idiot who got lucky once

You have to read between the lines, Edward Tryon can't come out and say the universe is a timeless square peg, so he tried to force it through the round hole of string theory. Physics will eventually have to separate time from space, Tryon had the courage to write about this.

[Tinkerpeach]

I don't think vacuum energy has anything to do with violations of the speed of light.

Most scientists do their best work before age 40.

Einstein was hung up on the idea of determinism and thus lagged behind in the cutting edge thinking on quantum mechanics by the late 1920s and 30s.


Einstein didn't get lucky just once. He was the author of landmark ideas and papers on the photoelectric effect, Brownian motion, special relativity, and general relativity. Any one of those papers alone would have launched a scientist into the top tier of physics of the day.

Well you are obviously extremely intelligent so I am sure you’ve studied his work on the general relativity theory which encompasses far more then just his famous equation

However since some people here might be interested in this but don’t know his work I am going to generalize

Einstein believed the universe was static and unchanging even though his equations were telling him different so he looked into it and couldn’t figure it out and this would ultimately lead to the birth of quantum physics

But these unknown variables threatened his theory of relativity so he came up with a new equation called the cosmological constant which simply says that there is a form of dark energy out there that would account for the flaws in his equation’s

He essentially just made this up on the spot with no proof whatsoever

Shortly after he published the theory of relativity the Shroedinger cat lesson came out which essentially says that if you put a cat in a box and put something in there to kill it that the cat is not alive or dead until you open the box and observe it

Einstein hated this lesson and went out of his way to debunk it because it showed that things happen in the universe that have no explanation and that negates most of his theories on relativity

I’m fact, most of Einsteins theories have been proven wrong and all he really ever did was produce one little mathematical equation

He was however a great self promoter and loved the fame he received but it is rumored that he didn’t even come up with that equation but that his wife did who was a schooled mathematician herself

[Cypress]

Well you are obviously extremely intelligent so I am sure you’ve studied his work on the general relativity theory which encompasses far more then just his famous equation

However since some people here might be interested in this but don’t know his work I am going to generalize

Einstein believed the universe was static and unchanging even though his equations were telling him different so he looked into it and couldn’t figure it out and this would ultimately lead to the birth of quantum physics

But these unknown variables threatened his theory of relativity so he came up with a new equation called the cosmological constant which simply says that there is a form of dark energy out there that would account for the flaws in his equation’s

He essentially just made this up on the spot with no proof whatsoever

Shortly after he published the theory of relativity the Shroedinger cat lesson came out which essentially says that if you put a cat in a box and put something in there to kill it that the cat is not alive or dead until you open the box and observe it

Einstein hated this lesson and went out of his way to debunk it because it showed that things happen in the universe that have no explanation and that negates most of his theories on relativity

I’m fact, most of Einsteins theories have been proven wrong and all he really ever did was produce one little mathematical equation

He was however a great self promoter and loved the fame he received but it is rumored that he didn’t even come up with that equation but that his wife did who was a schooled mathematician herself

I don't think I can have an intelligent discussion with someone who claims Einstein was overrated and only got lucky one time, Goat.

[guno]

I don't think I can have an intelligent discussion with someone who claims Einstein was overrated and only got lucky one time, Goat.

She ? is very uneducated , better off trying to have a discussion with a house fly

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Well you are obviously extremely intelligent so I am sure you’ve studied his work on the general relativity theory which encompasses far more then just his famous equation

However since some people here might be interested in this but don’t know his work I am going to generalize

Einstein believed the universe was static and unchanging even though his equations were telling him different so he looked into it and couldn’t figure it out and this would ultimately lead to the birth of quantum physics

But these unknown variables threatened his theory of relativity so he came up with a new equation called the cosmological constant which simply says that there is a form of dark energy out there that would account for the flaws in his equation’s

He essentially just made this up on the spot with no proof whatsoever

Shortly after he published the theory of relativity the Shroedinger cat lesson came out which essentially says that if you put a cat in a box and put something in there to kill it that the cat is not alive or dead until you open the box and observe it

Einstein hated this lesson and went out of his way to debunk it because it showed that things happen in the universe that have no explanation and that negates most of his theories on relativity

I’m fact, most of Einsteins theories have been proven wrong and all he really ever did was produce one little mathematical equation

He was however a great self promoter and loved the fame he received but it is rumored that he didn’t even come up with that equation but that his wife did who was a schooled mathematician herself

Is this Tinkerpeach's version of "Drunk History?"

[BidenPresident]

Is this Tinkerpeach's version of "Drunk History?"

I loved that show!

[Cypress]

Is this Tinkerpeach's version of "Drunk History?"

The real comedy in that post was the claim that all Einstein ever did was invent one little equation, and was otherwise an overrated hack.

[BidenPresident]

The real comedy in that post was the claim that all Einstein ever did was invent one little equation, and was otherwise an overrated hack.

I think goat is mentally unstable.

[Doc Dutch]

I think goat is mentally unstable.

He has all the symptoms of a paranoid schizophrenic. He also claims to have earned a degree in psychology and worked in the field in an advisory or counseling capacity before his life fell apart for unknown reasons.

[IBDaMann]

Einstein believed the universe was static and unchanging even though his equations were telling him different so he looked into it and couldn’t figure it out and this would ultimately lead to the birth of quantum physics

You've got to be kidding me.

But these unknown variables threatened his theory of relativity

1. Nothing threatened Relativity
2. If something had threatened Relativity, Einstein would have altered Relativity to account for the new information.

so he came up with a new equation called the cosmological constant which simply says that there is a form of dark energy out there that would account for the flaws in his equation’s. He essentially just made this up on the spot with no proof whatsoever

Let me explain to you how it works.

1. A constant is not an equation, it is a constant. This means it is a numerical value that does not change. Pi is an example of a constant; its value is 3.14159... and never changes.
2. Constants are not arbitrary and are not "made up on the spot." Constants are "factored out" of other combined values.
3. Einstein never mentioned "dark matter." The concept came about well after his death.
4. There were no flaws in Einstein's equations, at least none that anyone has yet discovered
5. No proof is needed for any science theory to come into existence. Once a science theory exists, others try to disprove it.

Shortly after he published the theory of relativity the Shroedinger cat lesson came out which essentially says that if you put a cat in a box and put something in there to kill it that the cat is not alive or dead until you open the box and observe it

... which is a really crappy explanation of the subject matter.

Einstein hated this lesson and went out of his way to debunk it

Incorrect. Einstein simply noted that quantum mechanics isn't physics; it's math. It bothered Einstein that QM did not describe an underlying object-oriented (my wording) reality and that merely reducing nature to a series of probabilities was silly.

I’m fact, most of Einsteins theories have been proven wrong

You're not the first fundamentalist "out there" Christian to make this claim. Would you mind elaborating on why/how you came to believe this? I would appreciate it greatly. You didn't arrive at this conclusion by running a demonstration that falsifies any of Einstein's science because nobody has ... yet you vehemently insist that this has happened. Why?

and all he really ever did was produce one little mathematical equation

He did a lot more than that ... although any one of his "equations" is a lot.

it is rumored that he didn’t even come up with that equation but that his wife did who was a schooled mathematician herself

... and you know the rule, just because it's a rumor doesn't mean that it isn't true.

[AProudLefty]

Perhaps the whole Universe is the result of a vacuum fluctuation, originating from what we could call quantum nothingness.

In quantum mechanics, there is no zero-energy state. There is only the lowest possible energy state of a system, its ground state. Now, if there is an inherent uncertainty in the energy of a system, then the energy of the ground state can fluctuate. If we call this ground state a quantum vacuum, it follows that the quantum vacuum always has some structure to it. There is no such thing as a true vacuum in the sense of complete emptiness. Quantum mechanics forbids nothingness.

If there are energy fluctuations in a quantum vacuum, very interesting things can happen. For example, the E = mc2 relation tells us that energy and matter are interconvertible. A vacuum energy fluctuation can be converted into particles of matter. Sounds weird? Maybe, but it happens all the time. These particles are called virtual particles, living a fleeting existence before plunging back into the ever-busy quantum vacuum.

Physicist Edward Tryon extrapolated the idea of quantum fluctuations to the Universe as a whole. He reasoned that if all that existed was a quantum vacuum, a bubble-like energy fluctuation out of this vacuum could have given rise to the Universe. Tryon proposed that the whole Universe is the result of a vacuum fluctuation, originating from what we could call quantum nothingness.

Tryon’s proposal falls into the category of universes with a beginning, but created out of nothing. However, nothingness here, as well as in all the other examples of quantum-created universes that followed Tryon’s inspiring idea, must be understood in terms of quantum mechanical nothingness, and not from an absolute nothingness that translates to complete emptiness. In physics you simply cannot get something out of nothing. Creation ex nihilo is not the way of nature.

https://bigthink.com/13-8/universe-quantum-fluctuation/

Yes and no.