Joe Capitalist (05-20-2023)
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
Joe Capitalist (05-20-2023)
No, it's not. Your comments show an utter and complete ignorance of how apartment building electrical systems work.
See that? That's typical apartment meter and service entry panel--for 6 apartments in this case. Each apartment has its own meter and service disconnect breaker (under the square flap next to the meter). That breaker is usually an 80 or 100 amp 240 VAC single phase.
To install a charging system would require the installation of buried conduit, pulled THW wire suitable for the load, and then installation of the charging station. I'd guess, per station in an existing apartment complex of the sort I go to on service calls, that each station would run somewhere between $3000 and $5000 to install depending on the lengths of runs and how much concrete and asphalt has to be cut and replaced. It might run more. If there are issues with the service panel, or the panel has insufficient power in it to handle the extra load you're looking at another, roughly, $10,000 to replace it.
All of that is because the landlord doesn't pay for electricity. Each tenant pays their own bill off their own meter. Then there's the issue with theft. One tenant uses another tenant's charging station to charge their vehicle. The tenant who had electricity stolen would then have to sue the one that stole it, assuming they could figure out who it is. Or, someone who doesn't even live in the complex steals a charge and disappears. Good luck getting that back.
Then there's copper thieves, etc. The whole idea that you can put in masses of charging stations at an apartment complex is absurdly asinine and expensive. If the landlord is the one owning the stations and they charge per use, they could simply jack the rate per KWH charged through the rafters. You don't like it? Go somewhere else to charge. The landlord could easily justify it on the basis of theft and vandalism along with recouping the cost of installation.
It is about supply and demand. If stations start charging too much, then people will charge more at home. There is no similar thing people can do if gas stations start charging too much.
Electricity gets you options. A lot is made that you can get electricity from gasoline easily, but think about this: can you get gasoline from electricity? If you do not have easy access to electricity through the grid(rare, but possible), you can easily use a portable generator to generate electricity from gasoline. If you do not have gasoline, but are connected to the electrical grid, you still do not have gasoline. If gasoline prices go up, but you still have cheap hydro electric power, you are going to have to pay through the nose for gasoline.
And if the oil companies who control how much the gas stations can charge jack up the prices, you are stuck paying higher prices or going nowhere.... Assuming you do not have an electric car.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
If you can charge at home you do. It takes seconds to plug in and go inside from the garage. Plugging in elsewhere is just what you do if you go someplace and they have chargers in their lot. Then you my plug-in and top off. The electric company will help pay for chargers and they tell you when it is cheapest to plug in.
Walt (05-31-2023)
If stations start charging too much and you don't own a home, then what? Where do you go?
Hydroelectric power isn't available everywhere. In fact, it's quite limited. A portable generator using gasoline to charge your car is going to set you back $500 or more. Then you have to haul it to where you're going to use it. That means you better own a pickup truck, not a car.
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