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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    It still is considered barbaric.

    As for life still to be born or not born, it's true abortion became illegal under religious dominated law in the Middle Ages, but it became legal and widely practiced in some states in the early years of the country and it was widely practiced in Native American tribes. Where it was not practiced even children had the sense to know what "children" are.
    Another pointless post. You're quite full of them.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The claim by Republicans that life is sacred and begins at conception is completely situational.

    If they start losing elections and start to permanently alienate Gen X and women, they will begin to quietly tip-toe away from radical abortion bans in the same way they quietly tip-toed away from all their efforts to make constitutional amendments banning gay marriage.
    The lie filled bullshit is strong in this halfwit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    And getting more so. Close to 60% consistently in polls support a woman's right to choose.

    Everyone has the same goal: make abortions rare.

    But keep them legal. It's middle ages stuff to ban them.
    there should be only 3 situations where abortion should be an available choice.

    1. life of the mother at stake.
    2. rape or incest
    3. severe debilitation of the baby

    other than that, nobody took away a choice. the man and woman made their choice in consensual sex that they KNEW could result in pregnancy
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    there should be only 3 situations where abortion should be an available choice.

    1. life of the mother at stake.
    2. rape or incest
    3. severe debilitation of the baby

    other than that, nobody took away a choice. the man and woman made their choice in consensual sex that they KNEW could result in pregnancy
    Why do you care if someone has an abortion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    there should be only 3 situations where abortion should be an available choice.

    1. life of the mother at stake.
    2. rape or incest
    3. severe debilitation of the baby

    other than that, nobody took away a choice. the man and woman made their choice in consensual sex that they KNEW could result in pregnancy
    I almost agree with you here. If only you had said there should be only 4 situations. The fourth which I would add would be:

    If the person in who's body the pregnancy is happening just wants an abortion.

    Then your list would make sense.
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    Abortion should never be used as birth control... and that's what it's become...
    That they accuse you of what they are doing themselves, every...single...time

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    there should be only 3 situations where abortion should be an available choice.

    1. life of the mother at stake.
    2. rape or incest
    3. severe debilitation of the baby

    other than that, nobody took away a choice. the man and woman made their choice in consensual sex that they KNEW could result in pregnancy
    Says who?

    Most of America thinks it should be available for the 1st trimester, regardless.

    There are other circumstances where women are careful, and still get pregnant. And there are many cases that they get pregnant against their will, but can't prove it in a court of law.

    It needs to be legal in the 1st trimester. We can all work to try to make it more rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Abortion should never be used as birth control... and that's what it's become...
    Not really, TOP.

    Nobody wants to use it as birth control. There are too many other easier, less intrusive methods. But there are people in this country attempting to make access to those kinds of birth control illegal also.

    In my opinion, attempting to criminalize abortion is 99% a religion driven thing...mostly Christian driven.

    Gotta wonder why. It is possible Jesus never even mentioned abortion. He certainly didn't make it important enough for any of the writers to mention it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Abortion should never be used as birth control... and that's what it's become...
    Abortion is birth control for careless and irresponsible people, and we have no shortage of those.

    If we excluded such people from access to abortion,
    we'd be inflicting "unwanted status" on a lot of babies,
    which is infinitely more cruel than humanely aborting them.

    And, we'd be making parents out of those careless and irresponsible people.
    That's what kids need, right?

    I know a lot of people who were actually wanted as infants
    and would still have been better off aborted, whether they realize it or not,

    Any life in which the rewards don't adequately compensate the travails is a net-negative experience.
    People who advocate for the existence of such lives are nothing less than sadists.
    It's difficult to not view such misogynists as sadistic villains.

    What's really difficult for me is to understand why this isn't obvious to everybody.
    People for whom it's obvious and people for whom it isn't are far too incompatible to live in the same republic.
    I sincerely believe that, and that's one reason why I'm a partitionist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Why do you care if someone has an abortion?
    despite most peoples perceptions that i'm a blood thirsty murderer waiting for an opportunity, I do have respect for life, especially lives where the life isn't given a choice or a chance.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    despite most peoples perceptions that i'm a blood thirsty murderer waiting for an opportunity, I do have respect for life, especially lives where the life isn't given a choice or a chance.
    So your entire moral system is based on forcing women to give birth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I almost agree with you here. If only you had said there should be only 4 situations. The fourth which I would add would be:

    If the person in who's body the pregnancy is happening just wants an abortion.

    Then your list would make sense.
    if that were the case, then you gave up any hope for an argument about personal responsibility in any and all matters. that person in whose body the pregnancy is happening exercised a right to choose by choosing to engage in an act that she KNEW could result in a pregnancy. Now, if you wish to allow any and all individuals a freedom from responsibility in any and all matters, let me know.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Says who?

    Most of America thinks it should be available for the 1st trimester, regardless.
    I get that 'most' people think that a majority should be able to rule over a minority, but that's not freedom, that's tyranny. Isn't tyranny what you're supposed to be against?

    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    There are other circumstances where women are careful, and still get pregnant.
    and we call those calculated risks in a rational world.

    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    And there are many cases that they get pregnant against their will, but can't prove it in a court of law.
    I'd say that those are extremely rare.........
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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