Reply With QuoteIndeed, TOP.Originally Posted by TOP
Biologists are also pretty firm as to the fact that there are two (2) and only two genders.
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Every brain born has a lifetime conflict with ancestral displacement and intellectual social position within the population present. Why, life is a compounding connection between inception, conception, death, extinction life doesn't exceed what exists now.
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Indeed, TOP.
Biologists are also pretty firm as to the fact that there are two (2) and only two genders.
TOP (05-30-2023)
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A zygote is not a living human.
If you dispute that...let's hear it.
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Yes...living...
https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/a...uman%20species.
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Earl (05-30-2023)
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Dianne N. Irving wrote that paper while teaching at Catholic University of America. She had, in her position there, a vested interest in assessing the issue in a way consistent with Catholicism. The notion that a zygote is a living human...is as absurd as the notion that an acorn is an oak tree...or that an omelet is a chicken dinner.
Let's see something from a more objective source.
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You ask a question and I gave you an answer.. a pregnancy at any stage is quite different than an acorn or an egg for an omelette... I can personally vouch for that...
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Earl (05-30-2023)
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Yeah, a pregnancy at any stage is quite different from an acorn or an omelet...
...but the simile holds without regard to that.
YOU are saying that a zygote is a living human...and I am saying that is like saying an acorn is an oak tree...or an omelet is a chicken dinner.
And I can personally vouch for the fact that neither of those is so. Which points to what any person with a functioning brain realizes: A ZYGOTE IS NOT A LIVING HUMAN.
EVERYONE alive right now was a zygote at one time.
Not every (human) zygote gets to become a living human. Some are aborted...and some are expelled as a result of natural miscarriage. They never become a living human.
By the way, TOP...since you are so sure they were living humans while still just zygotes...you did count them as dependents on your tax returns...right?
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I'm saying that what is developing at any stage is an unborn child... and you are correct some do not survive... a miscarriage is the loss of a child ask anyone who's had a miscarriage... you raise a good point...the little boy or little girl developing is dependent on the mother so we should have gotten some kind of Child Care Credit...a growing baby is not the same as an acorn or a chicken egg...
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Earl (05-30-2023)
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This is self-evident except to 86 year old, far left Democratic Socialist loons.I'm saying that what is developing at any stage is an unborn child... and you are correct some do not survive... a miscarriage is the loss of a child ask anyone who's had a miscarriage... you raise a good point...the little boy or little girl developing is dependent on the mother so we should have gotten some kind of Child Care Credit...
Acorns and chicken eggs are not and never will be, humans.
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You are correct acorns and chickens are not and never will be human..
I don't consider Frank to be a "loon", necessarily...
We've already agreed to disagree... I just want to continue trying to make him see my point... it's a decision about a little more than a clump of cells ..or digging up an acorn or scrambling a chicken egg..
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Earl (05-31-2023)
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And you are wrong, because it isn't. But it is okay to be wrong.
Once again, you are correct that a growing baby...or a clump of cells that are not yet a baby...are not the same as an acorn or a chicken egg. I have never claimed they are...and in fact have acknowledged they are not.and you are correct some do not survive... a miscarriage is the loss of a child ask anyone who's had a miscarriage... you raise a good point...the little boy or little girl developing is dependent on the mother so we should have gotten some kind of Child Care Credit...
BUT CLAIMING THAT A ZYGOTE IS A LIVING HUMAN...IS AS ABSURD AS ASSERTING THAT AN ACORN IS AN OAK TREE...OR AN OMELET IS A CHICKEN DINNER.
You are still not acknowledging that.
Okay. Doing what you are doing is helping my position...that of wanting a woman to have control of her own body.
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I am not a Democrat...nor a socialist. I am far left...but not a loon. Loons are, for the most part, Republicans. Just as I am not a Democrat...I also am not a Repbublican.
Correct. And nobody here is suggesting they ever will be.Acorns and chicken eggs are not and never will be, humans.
BUT...CLAIMING THAT A ZYGOTE IS A LIVING HUMAN...IS AS ABSURD AS ASSERTING THAT AN ACORN IS AN OAK TREE...OR AN OMELET IS A CHICKEN DINNER.
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We're just going to have to continue to agree to disagree.. but I'm not wrong...
I do want a woman to have control of her own body... and do everything possible so that she doesn't have to make a decision to have an abortion... which ultimately is a decision to end a life that is growing inside her... she didn't swallow an acorn or an omelet... the decision to have an abortion is no longer just making a decision about her own body there is another developing body involved... that's just a fact... there is.
..from conception... let's urge women to be in control so that they don't have to make such a difficult decision... and I think you would agree that it's a very difficult decision...
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Earl (05-31-2023)
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You are wrong.We're just going to have to continue to agree to disagree.. but I'm not wrong...
I do want a woman to have control of her own body... and do everything possible so that she doesn't have to make a decision to have an abortion... which ultimately is a decision to end a life that is growing inside her... she didn't swallow an acorn or an omelet... the decision to have an abortion is no longer just making a decision about her own body there is another developing body involved... that's just a fact... there is.
..from conception... let's urge women to be in control so that they don't have to make such a difficult decision... and I think you would agree that it's a very difficult decision...
And if a pregnant woman decides she wants to end the pregnancy occurring in her own body...she should be able to do so without breaking any laws requiring that she not do it...and she should be able to do it safely with the help of a doctor and hospital if necessary.
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Also...CLAIMING THAT A ZYGOTE IS A LIVING HUMAN...IS AS ABSURD AS ASSERTING THAT AN ACORN IS AN OAK TREE...OR AN OMELET IS A CHICKEN DINNER.
ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!
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