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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungheap View Post
    I think it's funny that the same people that won't accept a document issued by the State of Hawaii and to which officials from Hawaii have made numerous statements attesting to its veracity are willing to accept a picture (not a scan or a copy) of this "certified copy" from the Republican of Kenya (although it didn't exist at the time) that was magically just unearthed in relatively pristine form with just the slightest whiff of skepticism.

    It's hilarious.

    But that's not what is the funniest thing about all of this. The funniest thing about all of this is that this "lawyer" is asking a United States court to authenticate a Kenyan document. Think about that for a second.

    The birthers really know how to pick 'em.
    so asking for his long form BC, is asking too much?
    why do you think he wont show that one..?
    and as you all can see, calling us names isn't stopping it, is it..

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    Dung heap's full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Damo that people believe this might make you laugh (and they are idiots so I can see thinking that part is funny), but encouraging this hateful racist belief, is very irresponsible.

    Someone is going to attempt to kill him over this.

    Pandering to hatemongering racists just isn't funny in my world.
    Darla, stop being a dumbassed bitch. yes, some people are racist, but most others are not and its idiots like you that cause more problems than solve them.

    the simple fact is that Obamas birth place is in question, however, even IF he were born in Kenya, he's still be a natural born citizen because wasn't his mother AMERICAN?????????

    the real controversy isn't his citizenship, it's his proclivity to be unwilling to prove his citizenship.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Damo, this is racism. I am amazed that anyone could miss it. It is the very embodiment of "the other". He isn't one of us. He's from Africa. He doesn't belong. He is The Other.
    This isn't racism any more than it was to ask about McCain's status. Do you honestly believe that if this was a question during Clinton's administration there wouldn't be the same reaction just because the dude was white? Shoot, the same people would have been all over it like stink lines on Pepe le Pew in a Warner Brother's cartoon.

    I think you are seeing ghosts. I'm sure some of the people that believe this are racist, but I wouldn't say everybody who believes this are racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    Darla, stop being a dumbassed bitch. yes, some people are racist, but most others are not and its idiots like you that cause more problems than solve them.

    the simple fact is that Obamas birth place is in question, however, even IF he were born in Kenya, he's still be a natural born citizen because wasn't his mother AMERICAN?????????

    the real controversy isn't his citizenship, it's his proclivity to be unwilling to prove his citizenship.
    He wouldn't be, the laws at the time said you had to have lived in the US for 10 years, five of which "must be after the 14th Birthday"... Ann Durham-Obama was only 18, not yet in the US 5 years after her 14th Birthday. Had he been born in Hawaii, yes he would be a citizen, had he been born in another place he would not. (This is why "birthers" like to try to prove he was born in Kenya.)

    Now, the laws allow you to add them even if they are not consecutive, but because of the 5 years after their 14th birthday restriction, the only possible way for somebody born in another nation to be born a citizen is if their parent was over 19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Dung heap's full of shit.

    Wow, that's some original material, Shrugs. Nice work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    He wouldn't be, the laws at the time said you had to have lived in the US for 10 years, five of which "must be after the 14th Birthday"... Ann Durham-Obama was only 18, not yet in the US 5 years after her 14th Birthday. Had he been born in Hawaii, yes he would be a citizen, had he been born in another place he would not. (This is why "birthers" like to try to prove he was born in Kenya.)

    Now, the laws allow you to add them even if they are not consecutive, but because of the 5 years after their 14th birthday restriction, the only possible way for somebody born in another nation to be born a citizen is if their parent was over 19.
    hmmmm, i now see why the full court press is on concerning his birthplace.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meme View Post
    really, if it's just a hoax, why is lamestream media frothing from the lips trying to discredit the people who are asking about it..

    isn't it their jobs trying to PROVE if it is right or wrong, not write some low down articles calling the people names....?? but no..
    So the media can paint all who oppose Obama as morons and birthers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    This isn't racism any more than it was to ask about McCain's status. Do you honestly believe that if this was a question during Clinton's administration there wouldn't be the same reaction just because the dude was white? Shoot, the same people would have been all over it like stink lines on Pepe le Pew in a Warner Brother's cartoon.

    I think you are seeing ghosts. I'm sure some of the people that believe this are racist, but I wouldn't say everybody who believes this are racist.
    Okay here is where you have fallen through the rabbit hole.

    There is no question.

    A faux "controversy" was created out of whole cloth because he is black. Because he is not white.

    Your entire premise is false.

    Of course this is a racist conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    Darla, stop being a dumbassed bitch. yes, some people are racist, but most others are not and its idiots like you that cause more problems than solve them.

    the simple fact is that Obamas birth place is in question, however, even IF he were born in Kenya, he's still be a natural born citizen because wasn't his mother AMERICAN?????????

    the real controversy isn't his citizenship, it's his proclivity to be unwilling to prove his citizenship.

    The day you find me kissing Larry Flynt's ass is the day I'll be as dumb as you are.

    But that day will never come.

    I know who my enemies are. I know who hates me. Too bad you're too dumb to know who hates you. But that's your problem and it ain't never gonna be mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungheap View Post
    Wow, that's some original material, Shrugs. Nice work.
    Not too original, but again, spot on. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Okay here is where you have fallen through the rabbit hole.

    There is no question.

    A faux "controversy" was created out of whole cloth because he is black. Because he is not white.

    Your entire premise is false.

    Of course this is a racist conspiracy.
    you have documented proof to back up this assumption? that this whole 'controversy' is borne out of racism and nothing else? I'd love it if you would post this 'evidence'.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Okay here is where you have fallen through the rabbit hole.

    There is no question.

    A faux "controversy" was created out of whole cloth because he is black. Because he is not white.

    Your entire premise is false.

    Of course this is a racist conspiracy.
    ^lol^

    so what about mccain's controversy? folks, darla is a perfect example of why racism is still alive in this country....you can't question a black person, or even a half black person because its

    RACIST

    how dare we treat them as equals....how dare people ask the same questions and proof as mccain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Okay here is where you have fallen through the rabbit hole.

    There is no question.

    A faux "controversy" was created out of whole cloth because he is black. Because he is not white.

    Your entire premise is false.

    Of course this is a racist conspiracy.
    I do not believe that if he was white it would have made any difference in this particular scenario, helped along by the very person's own stubborn insistence not to release a document. Yeah, I believe it is a conspiracy theory, but I don't believe it is racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungheap View Post
    I think it's funny that the same people that won't accept a document issued by the State of Hawaii and to which officials from Hawaii have made numerous statements attesting to its veracity are willing to accept a picture (not a scan or a copy) of this "certified copy" from the Republican of Kenya (although it didn't exist at the time) that was magically just unearthed in relatively pristine form with just the slightest whiff of skepticism.

    It's hilarious.

    But that's not what is the funniest thing about all of this. The funniest thing about all of this is that this "lawyer" is asking a United States court to authenticate a Kenyan document. Think about that for a second.

    The birthers really know how to pick 'em.
    who in this thread has "accepted" this picture as you claim? i haven't seen one post saying that this picture is true, only interesting....

    and it was filed in an american court for publicity....also, i don't actually know if the court cannot verify the document, i wouldn't think so, but then the law surprises me almost everyday

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