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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Why do you keep calling this person gay? Was it announced somewhere?
    There is also no evidence that they were "treated badly" by the school. At this point Jarod is just guessing. Though it does make my post about the narratives on news agencies and how this story will be treated more accurate.

    If we find out that this person was just mentally ill they (mainstream news agencies) will simply drop this hot rock on the ground and run away. If they find out they were told by the school that they were "sinning" in some way, they will grab on even if this hot rock will give them blisters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    There is also no evidence that they were "treated badly" by the school. At this point Jarod is just guessing. Though it does make my post about the narratives on news agencies and how this story will be treated more accurate.

    If we find out that this person was just mentally ill they (mainstream news agencies) will simply drop this hot rock on the ground and run away. If they find out they were told by the school that they were "sinning" in some way, they will grab on even if this hot rock will give them blisters.
    Not going to drop it, gun violence against children must be addressed. I jumped the gun in calling this person gay, it was an assumption on my part. I have known a lot of gay people badly damaged by Christian churches telling them it was a sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    You just misgendered this person.
    Why does that matter?

    Though that may be true it is also rare for a person who suffered that kind of abuse to act out like this. Less rare for them to become victimizers in other ways, their "this is a bad thing" part of their brain often has a thinner wall than that of persons who were not abused.
    It may be a case of severe abuse over a long period of time.

    Her looking like that in pictures is a screaming for help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    There is also no evidence that they were "treated badly" by the school. At this point Jarod is just guessing. Though it does make my post about the narratives on news agencies and how this story will be treated more accurate.

    If we find out that this person was just mentally ill they (mainstream news agencies) will simply drop this hot rock on the ground and run away. If they find out they were told by the school that they were "sinning" in some way, they will grab on even if this hot rock will give them blisters.
    I could be totally wrong here but I read this person was transgender. And my understanding is transgender can but does not automatically equal gay. So rather ironic to project others behavior on this person while possibly misidentifying them.

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    Three more children sacrificed to Molech of Guns.

    Is anyone coordinating the "Thoughts and Prayers"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    They may not be transgendered, it may be they simply left a default set of pronouns in the profile. However, some images included seem to indicate that this person is on the rainbow spectrum somewhere other than the dichromatic cis male/female.
    Yeah. She does look androgynous. It doesn't mean anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Not going to drop it, gun violence against children must be addressed. I jumped the gun in calling this person gay, it was an assumption on my part. I have known a lot of gay people badly damaged by Christian churches telling them it was a sin.
    You are not mainstream news agencies. I'll maintain my oblique prediction as to how the newsies will handle this. Kind of like Club Q in CO Springs... It dropped out of the nonstop news cycle quickly once it was known the shooter was nonbinary. (We still get more than the average coverage here, but it was "local" for us.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Why does that matter?



    It may be a case of severe abuse over a long period of time.

    Her looking like that in pictures is a screaming for help.
    I hear what you are saying, I just refuse to make such a determination without stronger evidence than how I feel about photos. I am not even 100% that this person was trans yet. Getting a short haircut and wearing a tie doesn't make someone trans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    You are not mainstream news agencies. I'll maintain my oblique prediction as to how the newsies will handle this. Kind of like Club Q in CO Springs... It dropped out of the nonstop news cycle quickly once it was known the shooter was nonbinary. (We still get more than the average coverage here, but it was "local" for us.)
    I still hear a lot about Club Q. Maybe you are getting your news from bad sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I hear what you are saying, I just refuse to make such a determination without stronger evidence than how I feel about photos. I am not even 100% that this person was trans yet. Getting a short haircut and wearing a tie doesn't make someone trans.
    Right. Like I said, she's androgynous. It appears that people jump on a bandwagon assuming that she's trans because she's androgynous and, in that picture, dressed like a man.

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    Heartbreaking image of pastor’s daughter, 9, shot dead at Nashville school with five others revealed as cops ID victims

    Nashville police have identified the six victims of the Covenant School shooting, which includes the private Christian academy’s headmistress.

    Officials identified the three slain students as Evelyn Dieckhaus, Hallie Scruggs, and William Kinney, all age 9.

    The three faculty members killed were Cynthia Peak and Mike Hill, both 61, and school head Katherine Koonce, 60.

    Police said 28-year-old Audrey Hale, a former student and transgender woman, entered the school Monday morning, opening fire at the victims before police shot her dead.

    Officers said she was equipped with at least two assault rifles and a handgun, and had entered the school through a side door by shooting at it.

    The community is in mourning over the tragedy that befell the small private school, which teaches students in pre-K through 6th grade and only has about 200 students enrolled, according to its website.

    Koonce, an educator of more than 23 years, joined the school as the headmistress in 2016. Hill was identified as a custodian, and Peak was a substitute teacher.

    The school focuses its curriculum on biblical theology, where students take classes about the bible along with standard education courses, with the school motto being “Shepherding Hearts, Empowering Minds, Celebrating Childhood.”


    Nine-year-old Hallie Scruggs was ID’d as one of the victims.



    Katherine Koonce, the headmistress of the school, was ID’d as one of the victims.


    https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/nashvi...-old-students/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy View Post
    Heartbreaking image of pastor’s daughter, 9, shot dead at Nashville school with five others revealed as cops ID victims

    Nashville police have identified the six victims of the Covenant School shooting, which includes the private Christian academy’s headmistress.

    Officials identified the three slain students as Evelyn Dieckhaus, Hallie Scruggs, and William Kinney, all age 9.

    The three faculty members killed were Cynthia Peak and Mike Hill, both 61, and school head Katherine Koonce, 60.

    Police said 28-year-old Audrey Hale, a former student and transgender woman, entered the school Monday morning, opening fire at the victims before police shot her dead.

    Officers said she was equipped with at least two assault rifles and a handgun, and had entered the school through a side door by shooting at it.

    The community is in mourning over the tragedy that befell the small private school, which teaches students in pre-K through 6th grade and only has about 200 students enrolled, according to its website.

    Koonce, an educator of more than 23 years, joined the school as the headmistress in 2016. Hill was identified as a custodian, and Peak was a substitute teacher.

    The school focuses its curriculum on biblical theology, where students take classes about the bible along with standard education courses, with the school motto being “Shepherding Hearts, Empowering Minds, Celebrating Childhood.”


    Nine-year-old Hallie Scruggs was ID’d as one of the victims.



    Katherine Koonce, the headmistress of the school, was ID’d as one of the victims.


    https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/nashvi...-old-students/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I still hear a lot about Club Q. Maybe you are getting your news from bad sources.
    Nonstop news cycles are discussed more heavily here. It isn't who I am getting my news from, it is simply not in the nonstop cycle. While some reports are out there, considering the trial is going on, it is nothing like what you get when the activity is committed by a person who fits within the narrative the agencies want you to see.

    The reality, that story dropped out of the nonstop cycle in less than a day after we found out that the bad actor was nonbinary, it fell to normal news cycles and for that type of crime it nearly is nonexistent.

    Some LGBTQ+ groups still believe that the nonbinary shooter was "faking it" for the trial, even with that it still dropped out of the nonstop cycle quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Nonstop news cycles are discussed more heavily here. It isn't who I am getting my news from, it is simply not in the nonstop cycle. While some reports are out there, considering the trial is going on, it is nothing like what you get when the activity is committed by a person who fits within the narrative the agencies want you to see.

    The reality, that story dropped out of the nonstop cycle in less than a day after we found out that the bad actor was nonbinary, it fell to normal news cycles and for that type of crime it nearly is nonexistent.

    Some LGBTQ+ groups still believe that the nonbinary shooter was "faking it" for the trial, even with that it still dropped out of the nonstop cycle quickly.
    Ok, I don’t pay a lot of attention to the headline screamers. Nobody should.

    A non-binary person can hate just as much as the next person.
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    Nashville suspect is the fifth female mass shooter in US history

    The 28-year-old Nashville resident who unleashed deadly terror at a private Christian elementary school in Tennessee on Monday is just the fifth non-male mass shooter in US history, data shows.

    Gunman Audrey Hale, who police said identified as transgender, shot dead three children and three adults when she stormed into The Covenant School armed with two assault-style rifles and a pistol.

    She was subsequently shot dead by cops after a roughly 14-minute shooting spree.

    According to The Violence Project database, women make up just 2% of mass shooters across the country.

    The database, which hasn’t yet accounted for the Nashville shooting, shows that just four of the 191 mass shooters it has tracked since 1966 are females.

    Two of those four women had partnered with a male gunman, the data shows.

    https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/nashvi...in-us-history/

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