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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books. Every criminal who uses a gun in the commission of a crime is breaking a number of them, yet crime is on the rise.
    Liberals just don't get it that one (or more) new laws will not make a difference in the increasing crime. Maybe if they taught their kids some respect and responsibility,
    crime might be reduced. And, maybe if a few criminals were shot by responsible gun owners (and the fucking libturd DA's don't charge them), maybe criminals would think
    twice about committing crimes.
    Item: when the 1994 AWB was allowed to sunset via GOP majority vote in 2004, the sale of the formerly banned AR-15 style weapon was significant. Subsequently, this type of weapon was used in the majority of mass shootings....it performed EXACTLY as advertised. The majority of these shootings were done by ADULTS.

    When the 1994 AWB was in place, there were STILL a plethora of handguns, rifles and shotguns available to the law abiding general public. Crime did NOT sky rocket, as NRA propaganda predicted, and no subsequent laws of confiscation (general or otherwise).

    MAYBE if guns were treated as we do cars (licensing, pre-test qualifications, registration), there would be a diminishing of criminal obtainment of guns. MAYBE nut jobs would not be able to purchase weapons that weren't near assault style used by cops and military. And MAYBE what is in post #3 would diminish the ability of cranks and nut jobs ability to upgrade their weapons to be a better assault weapon.

    Maybe, if reactionary clowns who are indifferent to others deaths and suffering would stop trying to justify the status quo that is not exactly working to their beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Reality check:

    If the rule is upheld, weapons with attachments that enable firing from the shoulder must be registered by May 31, 2023. Registration is free during the 120-day period and costs $200 after that.

    https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/02/w...als-overnight/


    You do know those are made for handicappeed people. Biden wants to make them illegals to own
    Why do you insist upon trying to present your absurd revisionist fantasies as fact? Repeating and compounding your false statements won't magically make them come true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I disagree. The mother that allowed her 6-year-old to get a gun said that. The parents of the kid that shot people in Michigan said that. We are respectable gun owners. Then the shooting started proving they were wrong. Many of them on this board say the same thing in gun debates. Guns are dangerous in a home and in public.
    My father is a retired NYC Homicide detective. We grew up with two guns in the house....NOT kept in a locked box with security code. When we were little, they were kept out of reach. As we got older, it was thoroughly explained what they were, how dangerous they were, and how BOTH our parents would personally kill us if we even THOUGHT of touching them.

    Never had a problem.

    This doesn't mean that I endorse the revisionist clap trap of the OP author, but just leveling the discussion with a dose of reality....as I'm sure my experience is NOT unique in America in the last 60 years or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Those who want more reasonable gun laws do nothing to reach that goal with arguments like this, Nord.

    This is an LV426-type argument against ALL guns.

    We could also cover the entire world with foam rubber, but who want to live in a world like that?

    People who are PERFECTLY safe die a long, slow death from boredom.
    That's even worse than living in a shooting gallery from my perspective.

    People who are PERFECTLY safe die a long, slow death from boredom


    Possibly one of the most hyperbolic things you've said to date...
    Last edited by Taichiliberal; 03-26-2023 at 12:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Biden will take your guns anyway he can does not matter if it is unconstitutional. This will be stopped and once again Biden will look like the incompetent old fool he is

    https://fee.org/articles/the-atf-exp...s-into-felons/
    I hope this GREAT news TEARS YOU A WHOLE NEW ASSHOLE- ASSHOLE!

    Obviously, IT ALREADY HAS!

    Have a nice life!

    Last edited by Geeko Sportivo; 03-26-2023 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Guns are dangerous in a home and in public.


    It doesn't matter if they're safe or dangerous.
    It matters that people apparently want them.
    Enough people want them that, politically, there isn't a fucking thing to do about it.

    If the world's too dangerous for kids, don't have kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Item: when the 1994 AWB was allowed to sunset via GOP majority vote in 2004, the sale of the formerly banned AR-15 style weapon was significant. Subsequently, this type of weapon was used in the majority of mass shootings....it performed EXACTLY as advertised. The majority of these shootings were done by ADULTS.

    When the 1994 AWB was in place, there were STILL a plethora of handguns, rifles and shotguns available to the law abiding general public. Crime did NOT sky rocket, as NRA propaganda predicted, and no subsequent laws of confiscation (general or otherwise).

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    Maybe, if reactionary clowns who are indifferent to others deaths and suffering would stop trying to justify the status quo that is not exactly working to their beliefs.

    Hope springs eternal.
    Maybe if kids were taught responsibility...
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason Michaels View Post
    America is a hopeless gun junkie,not a thing can be done to change that.
    Even if guns were completely prohibited, it would work about as well as our Prohibition of Booze,Weed,and Drugs has worked.Capitalism will always supply what people want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The first think to do is enforce the laws on the books instead of trying to hurt law abiding citizens
    Hurt? Guns make a home less safe. You only shoot the one you love, unless you shoot yourself by accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Every single shooter is a law-abiding respectable gun owner until he pulls the trigger or provides a weapon to someone else who does it, there are thousands of respectable gun owners who will wind up killers.
    True. Always dumb fuck democrats who end up killing one of their own family members because of lack of familiarity with the gun they bought. Next......you stupid fuck.

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    From a limp dick white boy desperately trying to act black. Kill yourself Guno. Before AIDS gets you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Every single shooter is a law-abiding respectable gun owner until he pulls the trigger or provides a weapon to someone else who does it, there are thousands of respectable gun owners who will wind up killers.
    Such a pessimist. Gun owners prevent killings

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