Bigdog (03-28-2023), Into the Night (03-27-2023)
Bigdog (03-28-2023), Into the Night (03-27-2023)
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
Bigdog (03-28-2023)
So you have no rebuttal to the data.
Funny but I've never heard a consistent theme as to what exactly needs to be done. But I'm sure it is important to you to find the most loony suggestion and assume everyone believes that.I also don't buy the idea that the solutions to this problem are set in concrete the way the Left does.
Well, see, you're wrong there! I like nuclear as an alternative. I'm not overly fond of it but I recognize it has a very valuable place. As for renewables, well, I put my money where my mouth is and I installed solar on my house. Best investment I've ever made. I haven't paid an electric bill in years.They push solar and wind, not what works which would be nuclear and natural gas.
Speaking as someone who worked in that EXACT area briefly I can tell you H2 isn't going to be in your car anytime soon. MAYBE (maybe) methanol cracking but even that's a nightmare and you wouldn't want to fuel your car with that stuff and you wouldn't want countless thousands of Americans playing with it.They push battery cars and such when the solution would be anhydrous ammonia or hydrogen (gas or liquid).
I went to a transportation fuels conference in about the year 2000 in Europe. At that time we were focused on H2 storage. It was suggested at that time that if the problems with storage of H2 were taken care of, fuel cell vehicles would rise to the top. If not they would always be a minor player.
Fast forward 23 years and, well, you can see what happened.
If you ignore the actual science, then sure. If you ignore what the opposing side actually SAYS and go with the extremes then, yeah, sure. But if you base your conclusions on "reality" then you'll wind up in a rather different place.There is every reason NOT to believe the Gorebal Warming crowd, and every reason to reject them.
serendipity (03-27-2023)
There is no data to rebut.
Lie. The consistent theme of the Church of Global Warming has been that CO2 somehow magickally warms the Earth and that industry and anything using coal, gasoline or other oil products, must be eliminated to 'save the planet'.
So you haven't air conditioned your box yet. Gotit.
People use tanks of hydrogen all the time. Hydrogen powered cars exist too. Fueling stations for them can be found in some areas such as the southern SDTC and some parts of Europe.
Didn't learn a damn thing...didja?
H2 is easily stored. The only downside is hydrogen embrittlement. That is dealt with in H2 tanks by regularly testing them.
They are. Have been for many decades before the year 2000 when you supposedly went to your 'conference'.
Nope. Fuel cells require expensive rare metals to produce. Further, fueling with hydrogen presents problems with freezing. Further, you cannot store much energy in a car in the form of hydrogen. Gasoline is a much more efficient storage of energy by volume.
You obviously are completely unfamiliar with the hydrogen powered car.
What?
There is no science here. Buzzword fallacy.
Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Try English.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
You do know that the effects of aerosols and clouds are very poorly understood, right?
You do know that sea level rose at the rate of 4 ft. per century for 10k years when the last glacial period ended, right?
You do know that the Earth is currently in an Ice House state, right?
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
Not as much as you may wish for them to be.
In no small part due to isostatic rebound. Are you thinking there's been a major ice age since the end of the last one?You do know that sea level rose at the rate of 4 ft. per century for 10k years when the last glacial period ended, right?
It is in an "interglacial". Which, per the Milankovich Cycles, SHOULD be getting cooler again. But it isn't. I wonder why that is. Hmmmm.You do know that the Earth is currently in an Ice House state, right?
serendipity (03-27-2023)
Aerosols and clouds are very poorly understood ... and they are extremely significant. Don't doubt me.
Then you can provide the data in Feet for the amount of isostatic rebound and post it here for all to see, right?
"There are five known Icehouse periods in Earth's climate history, which are known as the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, Late Paleozoic, and Late Cenozoic glaciations."
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Greenhouse_and_iceho..
Milankovitch cycles predict glaciation cycles every 40,000 years. Yet for the last 2 million years, glaciation cycles have averaged one every 100,000 years. Do you understand 40k and 100k are very different numbers?
Last edited by Bigdog; 03-27-2023 at 02:12 PM.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
serendipity (03-27-2023)
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
Common knowledge that clouds are not well modeled? Yeah, but it doesn't really change the science that much. There's always questions in science, even the stuff you think we know perfectly well.
The key is that it doesn't appear to be enough of a problem to cause the vast majority of the earths' professionals in this field to suggest AGW is likely not real.
Here you are claiming things are "common knowledge" and you don't even know basic intro Geology 101 stuff? Oooookaaay.Textbook? ... I'm not going to do your research for you. If you can't support your argument with actual data, ... that's on you.
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