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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincunx View Post
    May I ask why you think you are more well informed than the earth's climate scientists, earth and oceanographic scientists?
    I don't. Rather, I think that the so-called "climate scientists" and the CO2 / anthropogenic climate change champions have proven over decades to be wrong, alarmists, and have a very strong radical Leftist political agenda. "Informed" has nothing to do with it. Instead, results as observed has everything to do with it.

    What you are making above is in part an appeal to authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I don't. Rather, I think that the so-called "climate scientists" and the CO2 / anthropogenic climate change champions have proven over decades to be wrong, alarmists, and have a very strong radical Leftist political agenda. "Informed" has nothing to do with it. Instead, results as observed has everything to do with it.
    You have no reason to think they are wrong. None.

    What you are making above is in part an appeal to authority.
    Of course it's an appeal to authority. Neither you nor I have the requisite skill or ability.

    It's like you and I sitting and talking about how badly wrong all the earth's particle physicists are about the Standard Model.

    The only difference is that I am appealing to the majority of authorities while you are appealing to a tiny minority of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincunx View Post
    You have no reason to think they are wrong. None.



    Of course it's an appeal to authority. Neither you nor I have the requisite skill or ability.

    It's like you and I sitting and talking about how badly wrong all the earth's particle physicists are about the Standard Model.

    The only difference is that I am appealing to the majority of authorities while you are appealing to a tiny minority of them.
    I have EVERY reason to think they're wrong. They've been wrong on predictions. They've lost virtually every case they've taken to trial against those that say they're wrong. At this point, they have no reason to be believed. In most other sciences, they'd have been run out of academia and discredited for all time. Yet, they persist because they are protected by powerful political forces and politicians on the radical Left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I have EVERY reason to think they're wrong. They've been wrong on predictions
    Let me correct that: overall their predictions in the gross sense have NOT been wrong. They've actually been quite correct. What is usually wrong are the pop-science, over-the-top predictions of imminent disaster. Those things will come, just not at the speed of getting viewers for your news program.

    The scientists have been more measured. And their predictions are coming true with astounding accuracy. Again and again.

    . They've lost virtually every case they've taken to trial against those that say they're wrong. At this point, they have no reason to be believed. In most other sciences, they'd have been run out of academia and discredited for all time. Yet, they persist because they are protected by powerful political forces and politicians on the radical Left.
    The actual science is very troubling. NOT because it reads like a Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson action epic disaster flick, but because they foretell a much more harrowing future that is still a bit distant.

    Don't expect to get the subtle story from news organizations on either side. Just read the science. It's troubling enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincunx View Post
    Let me correct that: overall their predictions in the gross sense have NOT been wrong. They've actually been quite correct. What is usually wrong are the pop-science, over-the-top predictions of imminent disaster. Those things will come, just not at the speed of getting viewers for your news program.

    The scientists have been more measured. And their predictions are coming true with astounding accuracy. Again and again.



    The actual science is very troubling. NOT because it reads like a Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson action epic disaster flick, but because they foretell a much more harrowing future that is still a bit distant.

    Don't expect to get the subtle story from news organizations on either side. Just read the science. It's troubling enough.
    Their overall predictions are wrong. Their modeling is wrong, their causes are wrong. They have been doing crap science for decades and building on it. Their call that the end of the world is coming--repeatedly-- is the most egregious case of their pandering bullshit. I could go to a run of the mill psychic and get better predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Their overall predictions are wrong. Their modeling is wrong, their causes are wrong. They have been doing crap science for decades and building on it. Their call that the end of the world is coming--repeatedly-- is the most egregious case of their pandering bullshit. I could go to a run of the mill psychic and get better predictions.
    Just going to ignore the articles I posted that say the exact opposite of your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity View Post
    What other area of science would allow politicians, activists and assorted gravy train scumbags to amend scientific reports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity View Post
    Here is a real climate scientist stating that global warming is not dangerous and only Working Group 1 of the IPCC has any semblance of validity and deals with actual science. How can anybody justify the obscene practice of allowing reports to be criticised and amended by politicians, activists and career civil servants? Yet that's exactly what happens with the Summary for Policy Makers. Here is the bullshit concocted by the IPCC to justify this practice.

    The Summary for Policymakers (SPM) is a summary of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports intended to aid policymakers. The form is approved line by line by governments: "Negotiations occur over wording to ensure accuracy, balance, clarity of message, and relevance to understanding and policy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    It's unbelievable that anybody could be led to believe that an increased growth of trees somewhere offsets the carnage of thunderous extended deluges, mud slides, floods, massive hurricanes, etc., etc.somewhere else.
    Bad news REALLY sux for Deniers.
    Pivot fallacy. Special pleading fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Weather changes according to changes in climate. Today's devastating events are as a result of climate change, The current climate change is as a result of global warming.
    You could assist in reducing global warming by reducing your farting frequency and keeping your fool mouth shut, Lame.


    Haw, haw.............................haw/
    So...according to you, climate controls weather, and weather controls climate. Paradox. Irrational.

    Weather changes. Big deal. It always has.
    Climate has no value associated with it. There is nothing that can change. A marine climate will always be a marine climate. A mountain climate will always be a mountain climate. A desert climate will always be a desert climate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    No- I let the mudslides and hurricanes do the talking. Perhaps you'd like to deny that they have increased in frequency and intensity Speech is free, even for Deniers. Currently.
    The National Hurricane Center disagrees with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Only climate change. That's all that's needed as evidence of climate change, you poor gasping fish.


    Haw, haw.............................haw.
    Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
    Define 'climate change'. Buzzword fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Plenty of evidence here

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-Global-fry-up

    Not for you, of course. You'd need your fool ass struck by forked lightning.


    Haw, haw.........................................haw.
    No evidence exist at this location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Again, plenty of evidence here, tatt boy;

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-Global-fry-up


    Mind you, there are a few more trees growing someplace



    Haw, haw......................................haw.
    No evidence presented. Repetition fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I only ask that you prove provide scientific historical evidence that hurricanes and mud slides have increased since 1780 when CO2 became "catastrophic" according to Greta and Al. Can you do that for all of us? A link is unacceptable. Post the relevant quotes or charts here for all to see.
    The National Hurricane Center historical data can be found here. It shows that moon is lying and making shit up again. Hurricanes are not becoming more frequent or more intense.
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