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    If the right wanted fascism, we would support rather than oppose you.
    The right are Already fascist ,they just haven't seized power! YET!
    Underscore is engaging in gaslighting, but he's pretty stupid about it...which is SOP for a dingo-fucking wannabe-American Aussie.

    Notice how far out he is with his posts. He doesn't know shit about American culture except what he watches on TV and the silver screen...and he's not that bright about it. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Not sure which hate site you get your talking points from, but they aren't working for you.
    I didn't realize the Florida legislature's website was a hate site. Or that the governor's website was a hate site. Or the that Florida department of education website was a hate site. I guess that makes sense though based on the bills they passed, signed and the comments they have made.

    The Florida department of education is who is dictating which books can be used in classrooms.
    https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/lates...-students.stml

    It would appear that the GOP in Florida is not letting local communities decide which books can be used in the classroom.
    The state is not the local community.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    You are conflating TWO separate definitions of 'collectivism', you childish moron.


    "col·lec·tiv·ism
    /kəˈlektəˌviz(ə)m/
    noun

    1. the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.
    "the Church has criticized the great emphasis placed on individualism rather than collectivism"


    2. the theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.
    "the Russian Revolution decided to alter the course of modernity towards collectivism"
    You didn't read the OP, did you?
    There are Two basic political ideologies: 'Individualism' & 'Collectivism'
    If something isn't individualism then it must be collectivism based on that argument. Relying on public schools to educate your children is certainly not being self reliant so it can't be individualism.

    Either that or the OP is simply bullshit which is something you seem to be arguing.
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    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    You didn't read the OP, did you?
    There are Two basic political ideologies: 'Individualism' & 'Collectivism'
    If something isn't individualism then it must be collectivism based on that argument. Relying on public schools to educate your children is certainly not being self reliant so it can't be individualism.

    Either that or the OP is simply bullshit which is something you seem to be arguing.
    If you remember that Trumpers are poorly educated and that JPP Trumpers are demented, then you'll never be disappointed by their lack of abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    You didn't read the OP, did you?
    There are Two basic political ideologies: 'Individualism' & 'Collectivism'
    If something isn't individualism then it must be collectivism based on that argument. Relying on public schools to educate your children is certainly not being self reliant so it can't be individualism.

    Either that or the OP is simply bullshit which is something you seem to be arguing.
    Public schools are NOT political collectivism. Grow up, you argue like a child.

    2. the theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Simian Says, "Dindu Dat!"
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    That is utterly stupid.
    Who Also Preached About "The Withering Away of the State"?
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason Michaels View Post
    I'm neither Nazi(Republican) or Democrat!
    the closest thing America has to a nazi is a woke progressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    the closest thing America has to a nazi is a woke progressive.
    Wrong, Legion's tiny penis. It's Trumpers. Specifically these assholes who I hope end up bleeding out in the streets for Pedo Don:



    Not that any of JPP's Keyboard Kommandos have to worry about their safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Public schools are NOT political collectivism. Grow up, you argue like a child.

    2. the theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.
    You didn't read the OP. It attempts to argue that there is ONLY individualism and collectivism when it comes to political theory. If there are only 2 choices and it isn't one of them then it must be the other.
    It's called the false dichotomy fallacy. It isn't my theory. I am only applying it to show how stupid it is. It seems you agree with me that the theory is bullshit.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    You didn't read the OP. It attempts to argue that there is ONLY individualism and collectivism when it comes to political theory. If there are only 2 choices and it isn't one of them then it must be the other.
    It's called the false dichotomy fallacy. It isn't my theory. I am only applying it to show how stupid it is. It seems you agree with me that the theory is bullshit.
    Once again, in a child like manner, you are trying to conflate TWO separate and distinct definiens of collectivism.

    Public schools do NOT fit the political definition of collectivism. That is a fact you keep denying.
    2. the theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

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    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Once again, in a child like manner, you are trying to conflate TWO separate and distinct definiens of collectivism.

    Public schools do NOT fit the political definition of collectivism. That is a fact you keep denying.
    2. the theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.
    Public schools do NOT fit the political definition of individualism. The OP claims there are only 2 political ideologies, individualism and collectivism. Public schools must be one or the other or the OP is bullshit.
    It seems you agree with me that Libhater's post is bullshit.
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    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    ROFLMAO. Congratulations on being a collectivist. Does that also make you a leftie?

    If public schools are community based then why is the state of Florida dictating which books can be used in the classroom? It seems that you don't seem to know what the people you support are doing.
    any ism that deviates from anarchism is collectivism

    If it is like a light switch, it does not matter how dim the bulb is - if it is on, it is on.

    Conservatism is not opposed to collective decision making - but we certainly are concerned with the power of mob rule, and break it up into smaller parts - like states and counties and school districts

    That is the proper approach too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Public schools do NOT fit the political definition of individualism. The OP claims there are only 2 political ideologies, individualism and collectivism. Public schools must be one or the other or the OP is bullshit.
    It seems you agree with me that Libhater's post is bullshit.
    Public schools are NOT a means of production owned by the State. They are educational institutions. In most States you have the individual freedom to choose to home school, use private school, or use public schools.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    any ism that deviates from anarchism is collectivism

    If it is like a light switch, it does not matter how dim the bulb is - if it is on, it is on.

    Conservatism is not opposed to collective decision making - but we certainly are concerned with the power of mob rule, and break it up into smaller parts - like states and counties and school districts

    That is the proper approach too.
    Yet conservatives support mob rule when it is Trump's mob attacking the Capitol.

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