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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    ROFLMAO.. Thanks for proving that education doesn't make anyone intelligent.
    Yes Jarod sure is a Dumbass. He thinks judges can rewrite laws. And you come by being a dumbass all on your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The opinion of one former FEC official is only one opinion.

    The FEC itself did not say the action was not illegal but voted 2-2 not to pursue the investigation because of possible statute of limitation issues and it would be redundant because of the previous DOJ investigation.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...daniels-cohen/
    Add that opinion to the other 2 and you have 3-2 that say no. And you also have a former FEC Chaiman , Brad Smith, that says it wasn't illegal. So that would be 4 -2 that say no.



    It “really doesn’t matter” if President Donald Trump or his lawyer, Michael Cohen, paid porn star Stormy Daniels $130,000 since there’s a “strong argument” that it wasn’t a campaign expenditure, according to former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith.

    “I think that there’s a very strong argument that this is not a campaign contribution and not a campaign expenditure,” Smith told Fox News host Laura Ingraham Thursday night on “The Ingraham Angle.”

    Brad Smith
    https://www.lifezette.com/2018/05/po...-fec-chairman/


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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    I have 11 years of post graduate education. How many do you have?
    I do not believe you. However, even if you did it’s my observation that such education does not mean you are intelligent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Add that opinion to the other 2 and you have 3-2 that say no. And you also have a former FEC Chaiman , Brad Smith, that says it wasn't illegal. So that would be 4 -2 that say no.



    https://www.lifezette.com/2018/05/po...-fec-chairman/


    You are going to get your hopes crushed again.
    Former officials can act as if they are actually still in that position?

    Ex-prosecutor says Donald Trump is 'guilty of numerous felony violations'
    https://www.npr.org/2022/03/24/10884...ony-violations

    You seem to be determined to prove you are almost no intellect at all by claiming someone that has no vote gets a vote.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    So not illegal. Remember Gary Edwards had a contributor pay $1 million for his pregnant mistress and that was deemed legal. Trump used his own money to conceal an affair from his own family. Totally legal according to former FEC official Von Spakovsky.

    "If the state charges are based on a supposed violation of federal campaign finance law, then the Manhattan DA is way off base," Hans von Spakovsky told Fox News Digital.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...law-fec-expert
    It’s a good thing that’s not what he’s likely to be charged with. When he is charged, the charging document will specify what law they say he broke.

    You can’t just say, he generally broke the law, they have to specify what statute, then you’ll be able to see the elements and how they fit the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Explain to me what it is they did that you believe is writing the law? Then explain to me how that made it an unconstitutional election…. You can’t.
    They change who the legislature said mailout ballots were to be sent out to. How long ballots could be counted and and changed voting hours. All laws that were written by the state legislatures. If they wanted to change those laws the only legal option would be to ask the state legislatures to change them. Then if the legislatures WANTED to it would be up to them to do it. It certainly wasn't Constitutional because nowhere in the Constitution does it give Judges the power to rewrite laws that the legislature wrote. So you had voters in at least four states voting unconstitutionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    It’s a good thing that’s not what he’s likely to be charged with. When he is charged, the charging document will specify what law they say he broke.

    You can’t just say, he generally broke the law, they have to specify what statute, then you’ll be able to see the elements and how they fit the facts.
    Since you say "It’s a good thing that’s not what he’s likely to be charged with." You must agree that Trump didn't violate a FEC law and any indictment that included it would be faulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I am sorry you have no clue what is going on here.......but I don't give a fuck what you pretend is happening.....

    there was a negotiated agreement. Cohen paid the consideration and billed it to Trump as client costs. Trump paid the bill. When I invoice clients for fees and costs I pay taxes on the fees. Why would I pay taxes on the costs? They are not my income. It is also not a contribution. The client is paying me back......
    OMG you are this stupid. This is so embarrassing for you.

    NO lawyer, NONE, other than maybe you, would pay on your clients behalf from your personal funds, $150K or any amount, and then bill them $150K for legal services to get it back.

    Do you know why? Do you know an accountant who can explain to you how you can 'gift' personal funds as the lawyer to Stormy but you would have to pay the taxes on the money paid to you. Thus you would be doing charity work.


    FLOL that you did not know that.

    If MIchael Cohen did a legitimate $150k legal work and that is ALL Trump paid, then Michael Cohen is still out the $150K he paid Stormy. He got paid for legal work but not the hush money.


    Thus Trump and his idiot squad have to argue Cohen was paying it as charity for Trump and it was not a flow thru. Cohen was eating it. And that is why Trump was whispering with him about the payment on the call, because Trump new Cohen was PostModernProphet level dumb and did not get what he was doing.


    You would get duped by Trump even on this if he asked you to act for him. FLOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    I don't have to make up anything. Why do you deny what the court accepted?
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr...g-criminal-tax
    that is all good stuff but quoting legal stuff to PostModernProphet is like talking Math and Logic to Marjorie Greene.

    No chance he can grasp any of that and thus you will get a flailing reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    They change who the legislature said mailout ballots were to be sent out to. How long ballots could be counted and and changed voting hours. All laws that were written by the state legislatures. If they wanted to change those laws the only legal option would be to ask the state legislatures to change them. Then if the legislatures WANTED to it would be up to them to do it. It certainly wasn't Constitutional because nowhere in the Constitution does it give Judges the power to rewrite laws that the legislature wrote. So you had voters in at least four states voting unconstitutionally.
    You say that generally, what specific law did they change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Since you say "It’s a good thing that’s not what he’s likely to be charged with." You must agree that Trump didn't violate a FEC law and any indictment that included it would be faulty.
    I’m no expert on campaign finance laws, so I don’t know. I suspect Trump is going to be charged with at least two things, one, filing a false business record, and two doing so with the intent to defraud. These are both crimes in New York. The fact that the paperwork he filed is an FEC document is irrelevant.

    The only thing relevant is if the documents contained a falsehood and if the falsehood was with the intent to defraud anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    So not illegal. Remember Gary Edwards had a contributor pay $1 million for his pregnant mistress and that was deemed legal. Trump used his own money to conceal an affair from his own family. Totally legal according to former FEC official Von Spakovsky.

    "If the state charges are based on a supposed violation of federal campaign finance law, then the Manhattan DA is way off base," Hans von Spakovsky told Fox News Digital.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...law-fec-expert
    There are some important legal distinctions between the John Edwards and Trump cases. One is that Edwards gave the money to keep it secret from his wife. Trump gave the money so Stormy would not talk to the media and influence the election.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/60415/p...aw-violations/

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    Quote Originally Posted by QP! View Post
    NO lawyer, NONE, other than maybe you, would pay on your clients behalf from your personal funds, $150K or any amount, and then bill them $150K for legal services to get it back.
    agreed......not even Cohen did that.....why do you keep lying.....reread the facts and ask me a real question if you can think of one......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You say that generally, what specific law did they change?
    it varied from state to state......in Wisconsin, for example, it was unsupervised drop boxes......but then, you already knew that......
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    Quote Originally Posted by QP! View Post
    that is all good stuff but quoting legal stuff to PostModernProphet is like talking Math and Logic to Marjorie Greene.

    No chance he can grasp any of that and thus you will get a flailing reply.
    sorry, I don't accept legal advice from a Dollar General cashier......
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