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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Which model and transmission do you have?
    I've got a 2021 Model Y Long Range Dual Motor.

    EVs don't have transmissions.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    I've got a 2021 Model Y Long Range Dual Motor.

    EVs don't have transmissions.
    It took you about an hour and a half to make a fool of yourself. Every car has a transmission!
    A car cannot run without one, Einstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    It took you about an hour and a half to make a fool of yourself. Every car has a transmission!
    A car cannot run without one, Einstein.
    And I bet you think Trump won the 2020 election, too.

    https://www.cars.com/articles/do-ele...ssions-445825/

    Do Electric Vehicles Have Transmissions?

    As a general rule, electric vehicles don’t have conventional multispeed transmissions as gas-powered cars do, with nearly all having just a single speed. That’s largely because electric motors produce their full power as soon as they start to turn (meaning, from a dead stop) and continue producing it over a wide rev range.
    Peak power doesn’t sustain, but motors rev as high as 20,000 rpm in some vehicles. By contrast, gas engines typically top out (aka redline) around 6,000 or 7,000 rpm; have to be “revved up” to make their maximum power; and are most efficient, based on load, within a fairly narrow rev range. They require more than one speed to operate at low and high road speeds, especially with greater efficiency. A multispeed transmission that’s of value in a gas vehicle isn’t normally worth the considerable increase in weight, cost and complexity in an EV, but EVs still have a transmission of sorts.
    Even EVs with just one speed still need gears that change the electric motor’s drive-gear ratio and transfer power to a differential, which splits that power between the wheels. Furthermore, they may have a device that locks the gears when Park is engaged. In most EVs, selecting Reverse simply makes the electric motor spin in the opposite direction, so separate gears for that aren’t needed.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    And I bet you think Trump won the 2020 election, too.

    https://www.cars.com/articles/do-ele...ssions-445825/

    Do Electric Vehicles Have Transmissions?

    As a general rule, electric vehicles don’t have conventional multispeed transmissions as gas-powered cars do, with nearly all having just a single speed. That’s largely because electric motors produce their full power as soon as they start to turn (meaning, from a dead stop) and continue producing it over a wide rev range.
    Peak power doesn’t sustain, but motors rev as high as 20,000 rpm in some vehicles. By contrast, gas engines typically top out (aka redline) around 6,000 or 7,000 rpm; have to be “revved up” to make their maximum power; and are most efficient, based on load, within a fairly narrow rev range. They require more than one speed to operate at low and high road speeds, especially with greater efficiency. A multispeed transmission that’s of value in a gas vehicle isn’t normally worth the considerable increase in weight, cost and complexity in an EV, but EVs still have a transmission of sorts.
    Even EVs with just one speed still need gears that change the electric motor’s drive-gear ratio and transfer power to a differential, which splits that power between the wheels. Furthermore, they may have a device that locks the gears when Park is engaged. In most EVs, selecting Reverse simply makes the electric motor spin in the opposite direction, so separate gears for that aren’t needed.
    Doubling down on your ignorance, sweetie. You know nothing about automobiles, you must still have a horse and buggy honeybun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Doubling down on your ignorance, sweetie. You know nothing about automobiles, you must still have a horse and buggy honeybun.
    You asked me what transmission does my EV have.

    As a general rule, electric vehicles don’t have conventional multispeed transmissions as gas-powered cars do

    So, tell me, what transmissions do EVs have? Name a couple.
    Or just one, if you're so fucking smart (which no one on this forum thinks you are).

    A non-answer from you will speak volumes.

    BTW, do you believe Trump won the 2020 election?

    Once again, A non-answer from you will speak volumes.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    EVS KEEP GETTING CHEAPER
    There have been teething problems with EVs, because they are so new, but the basic idea is simpler and cheaper than a ICE. It is going to continue to fall in price, and become more maintainable. ICEs are not getting much better.

    ICEs had worse teething problems. EVs have the roads, and electric grid already in place. Both could be improved, but they exist. ICEs had no roads, and no gasoline stations.

    You would think that a hybrid would be more complex than a ICE, after all it includes both a ICE and a EV. If the design is clever, a hybrid can actually simpler than a ICE. You can remove much of the transmission of power from the ICE to the wheels and replace it with a simpler EV motor. We have seen diesel electric trains do just that.

    It is sad to watch the alt right claim that electric motors can never pull huge loads, when all the biggest land transportation is handled by electric motors. Whether it is the diesel electric motors that pull thousands of tons trains, or the electric motors in the huge mining trucks, it is all electric.
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    Tesla is no longer a luxury brand.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Tesla is no longer a luxury brand.
    Is that what FoxNews told you? Or was it Infowars?

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    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    You asked me what transmission does my EV have.

    As a general rule, electric vehicles don’t have conventional multispeed transmissions as gas-powered cars do

    So, tell me, what transmissions do EVs have? Name a couple.
    Or just one, if you're so fucking smart (which no one on this forum thinks you are).

    A non-answer from you will speak volumes.

    BTW, do you believe Trump won the 2020 election?

    Once again, A non-answer from you will speak volumes.
    Well my dear, every car has a transmission. It may be slightly different for an EV, but it's still needs a transmission. No car can move without one. You are an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Well my dear, every car has a transmission. It may be slightly different for an EV, but it's still needs a transmission. No car can move without one. You are an idiot.
    Joe Capital was completely right. EVs usually do not have "conventional multispeed transmissions."

    Every car would have a transmission of some sort, but most EVs would have what is called a single speed transmission. It is a much simpler device than the multi-speed transmission of an ICE. What car people would generally call a transmission(a complex system of multiple gears to allow constant torque at different speeds) are generally not needed for EV's.

    This all makes for a simpler vehicle that could be cheaper, and more reliable. It is the reason that almost all modern diesel trains are actually diesel electric trains. Pure diesel engines have too many transmission problems for trains.
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    trump is a child rapist. We all know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Joe Capital was completely right. EVs usually do not have "conventional multispeed transmissions."

    Every car would have a transmission of some sort, but most EVs would have what is called a single speed transmission. It is a much simpler device than the multi-speed transmission of an ICE. What car people would generally call a transmission(a complex system of multiple gears to allow constant torque at different speeds) are generally not needed for EV's.

    This all makes for a simpler vehicle that could be cheaper, and more reliable. It is the reason that almost all modern diesel trains are actually diesel electric trains. Pure diesel engines have too many transmission problems for trains.

    Wow. I agree with you for the most part, except for the "This all makes for a simpler vehicle that could be cheaper, and more reliable" statement. Maybe a few years down the road...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Joe Capital was completely right. EVs usually do not have "conventional multispeed transmissions."

    Every car would have a transmission of some sort, but most EVs would have what is called a single speed transmission. It is a much simpler device than the multi-speed transmission of an ICE. What car people would generally call a transmission(a complex system of multiple gears to allow constant torque at different speeds) are generally not needed for EV's.

    This all makes for a simpler vehicle that could be cheaper, and more reliable. It is the reason that almost all modern diesel trains are actually diesel electric trains. Pure diesel engines have too many transmission problems for trains.
    How is that idiot right when he said his car had no transmission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Wow. I agree with you for the most part, except for the "This all makes for a simpler vehicle that could be cheaper, and more reliable" statement. Maybe a few years down the road...
    That is odd, we do agree. When I said "could" I meant a few years down the road. EVs still have teething issues, but theoretically they will be cheaper, and more reliable without the complex multi-speed transmission. As with any theoretical thing about the future, it might not come to be.

    I will point out that electric motors have done well on trains, to the point they run pretty much all modern trains. Diesel electric trains are cheaper, more reliable than just diesel trains, because the diesel engine runs at one speed, and is not directly connected to the wheels. Getting rid of most of the transmission was a very good idea with trains. An even better idea is all electric trains.

    Trains are bigger, and need more torque, so the move to electric happened decades earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    How is that idiot right when he said his car had no transmission?
    He technically said
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Capitalist View Post
    As a general rule, electric vehicles don’t have conventional multispeed transmissions as gas-powered cars do
    A normal EV does not have what the normal complex transmission. It has a barebones transmission that is a lot simpler to build and maintain.

    Let me put it like this. Technically, a ICE has a single speed transmission to transmit the power from the multi-speed transmission to the wheels. No mechanic calls that single speed transmission a "transmission." When they say "transmission" they mean only the multi-speed transmission, and nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    He technically said


    A normal EV does not have what the normal complex transmission. It has a barebones transmission that is a lot simpler to build and maintain.

    Let me put it like this. Technically, a ICE has a single speed transmission to transmit the power from the multi-speed transmission to the wheels. No mechanic calls that single speed transmission a "transmission." When they say "transmission" they mean only the multi-speed transmission, and nothing else.
    Let's cut through your BS. The comment originally made was that his EV did not have a transmission. No vehicle can operate without a transmission. Your spew is ridiculous.

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