What about freedom FROM religion?

[Saint Guinefort]

Go ahead and demand freedom from the WOKE Religion and then watch how you are destroyed for your lack of obedience.

What, EXACTLY, do you mean by "Woke"?

[Doc Dutch]

Go ahead and demand freedom from the WOKE Religion and then watch how you are destroyed for your lack of obedience.

I've never been destroyed. Why do you keep shitting your Depends about the "WOKE Religion"?

[Celticguy]

One day, maybe, the Catholic Church and the Church of England will treat its LGBTQ congregants as equals. Maybe even Pensacola Christian College will evolve. In the meantime, let’s not be fooled by the “religious belief” talk: It’s just old-fashioned bigotry.

the author is apparently not up to date on CofE.

[IBDaMann]

I wonder how many Christians would be appalled by the number of LGBTQ people in the pagan community?

I wonder how many LGBTQIARSPLEDTVDS+ people would be appalled that you really think you know how many there are.

Jesus would not have rejected them.

What makes you think Christians reject them? You ability to read people's minds? Your omniscience?

You certainly enjoy demonizing large classes of people based solely on your obedience in believing what you are told to believe by the people who do your thinking for you. They order to HATE and you HATE. They order you to be a shitty person and you gladly comply.

[Doc Dutch]

What makes you think Christians reject them?

Not all Christians. Jus the lip-service Christians in the Republican Party; the Evangelistas who favor "Prosperity Christianity".

What denomination of Christian are you, Sybil? Or do you just play one on the Internet like most Trumpers?

[IBDaMann]

[I]Are we just so accustomed to the anti-LGBTQ stances of conservative religious institutions that they don’t even register?

You're going to have to support your assertion that conservative religious institutions have anti-LGBTQ stances. First you are going to have to enumerate or otherwise delimit "conservative religious institutions". Then you'll have to define an "anti-LGBTQ" stance that means something more than merely that they're not LGBTQ.

I realize that leftists, such as ThatOwlCoward, will HATE and demonize large classes of people for no other reason than they are told to do so. I am not a leftist; I will never let anyone do my thinking for me.

Show me that all of your unbelievable assumptions, working definitions and demonizing overgeneralizations are actually valid. I think what we're going to find is that we really are just looking at petty bigotry on the KKK level.

Leftists and bigoted hatred go hand-in-hand.

[Saint Guinefort]

You're going to have to support your assertion that conservative religious institutions have anti-LGBTQ stances. First you are going to have to enumerate or otherwise delimit "conservative religious institutions". Then you'll have to define an "anti-LGBTQ" stance that means something more than merely that they're not LGBTQ.

I realize that leftists, such as ThatOwlCoward, will HATE and demonize large classes of people for no other reason than they are told to do so. I am not a leftist; I will never let anyone do my thinking for me.

Show me that all of your unbelievable assumptions, working definitions and demonizing overgeneralizations are actually valid. I think what we're going to find is that we really are just looking at petty bigotry on the KKK level.

Leftists and bigoted hatred go hand-in-hand.

I didn't realize the party that wants to eliminate non-binary bathrooms, has an obsession with what kind of genitalia every athlete is packing and who fought tooth and nail against gay marriage were so kind to LGBTQ individuals! It's an inspiration that the same people that go on homophobic rants like Marjorie Taylor Greene or the son of the most recent Republican president and his homophobic rant are not against the LGBTQ community!

Thanks for setting everyone straight! (Pun intended)

[Taichiliberal]

If you have a religious belief and there is an established church for that belief, you have the OPTION to join that church ... but if the rules and regulations of that church is not to your liking, you don't have to join. And if you can get enough people who agree with you....you can go through the process of being recognized by the state & fed gov't to start your own church.

All that being said, a preacher/reverend/priest/rabbi/imam/holy man, etc. can direct their parishioners to vote any way they choose. It's when a POLITICIAN tries to make a particular religion's dogma the law of the land that is the problem...and THAT is what our Constitution protects us from.

[IBDaMann]

I didn't realize the party

I realize that you are a standard undereducated leftist who has no reading comprehension so you get a pass.

We're discussing religious groups, not political parties. I'm sure you haven't the vaguest clue what the difference is but you should be able to ask someone.

[IBDaMann]

If you have a religious belief and there is an established church for that belief, you have the OPTION to join that church ... but if the rules and regulations of that church is not to your liking, you don't have to join. And if you can get enough people who agree with you....you can go through the process of being recognized by the state & fed gov't to start your own church.

All that being said, a preacher/reverend/priest/rabbi/imam/holy man, etc. can direct their parishioners to vote any way they choose. It's when a POLITICIAN tries to make a particular religion's dogma the law of the land that is the problem...and THAT is what our Constitution protects us from.

This post appears to be very level-headed and on the money.

Credit where it's due. Good job.

[PostmodernProphet]

Ask yourself why God would allow a disease that causes religious faith to be painful?

shrugs......its only painful to the idiots stupid enough to believe they have it...........you know, the the people that think God gave them the wrong gender.......

[IBDaMann]

Not all Christians.

Then you've said nothing. Like any other group, some are and some are not.

What denomination of Christian are you, Sybil?

Terry, I'm an (actual) atheist. So what denomination does that make me?

[Doc Dutch]

Then you've said nothing. Like any other group, some are and some are not.


Terry, I'm an (actual) atheist. So what denomination does that make me?

I believe it, Sybil.

[IBDaMann]

I believe it, Sybil.

Well, what denomination does it make me?

[Doc Dutch]

Well, what denomination does it make me?

Paranoid Schizo, Sybil. The same one you've always been in.