Einstein and Bohr Redefine Reality

[Saint Guinefort]

The topic of the thread is not your and Perry PhD's petty resentments. You have yet to even address the topic which interested me -->

Wow. YOU ARE WRONG!

Look at this post you fucking liar: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...87#post5519287


You can't even fucking read. LOL. Maybe that's why you are complete SHIT at discussing science. You can't read. You are a joke.

Geophysicist my ass.

[BidenPresident]

Isn't it funny that the post I did on the science you avoid. But you ALWAYS engage on this type of post.

hmmmm.



You don't seem like you actually have any science background.

Why do you think people will be impressed with your pitiful "name dropping" game? Is that how you got your "geology degree"?

Well, as Aristotle, Tycho Brahe, Galileo, Bohr, Einstein, Descartes, Newton said....

[IBDaMann]

So, people employed by university science departments are not getting paid?

I thought Cypress asked stupid questions but this slides into the top spot. You, an assumed adult, think science is a school. Which school do you believe owns science or somehow is science? What people do you believe are science? Perhaps you think that getting paid is science. Do you think that a department is science if it is called a science department?

JPP is full of adult posters who don't even know what science is. Thank you for shining light on this absurd aspect of this forum's contributors. I appreciate evince for alauding you. Too funny.

[BidenPresident]

I thought Cypress asked stupid questions but this slides into the top spot. You, an assumed adult, think science is a school. Which school do you believe owns science or somehow is science? What people do you believe are science? Perhaps you think that getting paid is science. Do you think that a department is science if it is called a science department?

JPP is full of adult posters who don't even know what science is. Thank you for shining light on this absurd aspect of this forum's contributors. I appreciate evince for alauding you. Too funny.

you're too stupid to bother with

[Cypress]

Wow. YOU ARE WRONG!

Look at this post you fucking liar: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...87#post5519287


You can't even fucking read. LOL. Maybe that's why you are complete SHIT at discussing science. You can't read. You are a joke.

Geophysicist my ass.

For Someone I've hardly ever exchanged posts with until this week, you seem to have spent a lot of time reading my posts and developing an resentful obsession about me.

You've been strutting around the board bragging about your alleged PhD and brilliant research career. I'm just posting on topics I find interesting.

[IBDaMann]

They apparently are both equivalent.

Not really.

Schroedinger: You can't know anything until you observe.

Heisenberg: At the quantum level, the act of observing (measuring) alters the results, so you don't really know exactly what you observed.


There's really not a whole lot more to it.



Note: Appreciation to BidenPresident for alerting me to my erroneous quotation marks. Bonus point for him. This post has been edited and the quotation marks have been removed.

[Cypress]

Isn't it funny that the post I did on the science you avoid. But you ALWAYS engage on this type of post.

hmmmm.



You don't seem like you actually have any science background.

Why do you think people will be impressed with your pitiful "name dropping" game? Is that how you got your "geology degree"?

Why should I respond to you and read your posts when you obviously have an obsessive resentment about me.

[BidenPresident]

Not really.

Schroedinger: "You can't know anything until you observe."

Heisenberg: "At the quantum level, the act of observing (measuring) alters the results, so you don't really know exactly what you observed. "


There's really not a whole lot more to it.

Do you mean Erwin "Schrodinger?" You quoted him, please cite the source. Prove you are not a stupid troll.

[IBDaMann]

you're too stupid to bother with

The correct grammar is "You are too stupid with which to bother." I'm sure if we looked sufficiently that we could find something that you have learned. I'm certain of it.

[BidenPresident]

The correct grammar is "You are too stupid with which to bother." I'm sure if we looked sufficiently that we could find something that you have learned. I'm certain of it.

get lost troll

[IBDaMann]

Do you mean Erwin "Schrodinger?" You quoted him, please cite the source. Prove you are not a stupid troll.

Good catch. I should not have put the quotes in there. I'll remove them. I merely wanted to summarize the two different positions, showing clearly that they are not equivalent.

Thanks for keeping me honest. Much appreciated.

[IBDaMann]

get lost troll

Which lost troll should I get? You?

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Not really.

Schroedinger: "You can't know anything until you observe."

Heisenberg: "At the quantum level, the act of observing (measuring) alters the results, so you don't really know exactly what you observed. "


There's really not a whole lot more to it.

Actually I think there's a LOT more to it than that. Mathematically the two "pictures" of the system (Heissenberg and Schroedinger) are apparently equivalent. One is just done with mathematics in a matrix format and the other is done with wave equations.

Schroedinger apparently proved these two are equivalent. But the underlying technical details are painful as anything. It boils down to how variation with time of the state vector is determined. In Heissenberg the operator changes with time while the state vector remains constant with time while in Schroedinger the state vector changes with time while the operator remains constant.

There's also the Dirac Picture which Cypress didn't mention but in that one the state vector and operator both change with time.

That's why I initially proposed that virtually none of us on this forum can actually say what the original statement actually meant. Let alone the philosophical implications.

[Cypress]

The sad part. He thinks writing that Plato was an ancient Greek make him a Greek scholar.

Nothing you claim about me can be trusted because you also lied your enormous flabby ass about me supposedly posting about religion all the time-->

I scanned the last 25 active threads which I started, and here's the breakdown -->

6 threads are on science
2 are on philosophers
1 on mathmatics
15 on politics, economics, or foreign policy

and 1 thread on religion, which was actually a thread mocking Christian fundamentalists.

[Cancel 1 2023]

Nothing you claim about me can be trusted because you also lied your enormous flabby ass about me supposedly posting about religion all the time.

Why are you OK with mocking Christians but you get really angry when someone questions the theological points about the God of the Old Testament?