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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusAI View Post
    "Fascism should rightly be called corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power." ― Benito Mussolini
    I really hate to splash you with cold water, but this quote doesn't mean what you think it means. Mussolini and Gentile used the term "corporate" (as translated from Italian with meaning lost in the translation) as the "body" of the state which "incorporates" all of the classes. Thus, fascism created a "corporate" state.

    You are trying to take translated Italian rhetoric of the 1930s and force fit that round peg into the square hole of today's politically-mangled usage of those terms. That can never end well.

    Mussolini and Gentile (and Hitler) presumed that all businesses and corporations would be subservient tools of the government. Mussolini had his "Ministry of Corporations" to keep all commerce under a tight rein. Hitler, of course, put all business under the direct control of Herman Goering.

    There was no sharing of power with corporations. There was never any intention of allowing business leaders to have any say in the government. You misunderstood the use of the word "corporate."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Democrats actually want things like Social Security. GOP always attacks that program.
    Social Security is an insanely bad program, economically speaking. It steals the bulk of people's future retirement money to pay for wasteful government spending today. SS's return on investment for retirees is worse than a bank's savings account, but it is a SWEET deal for the government that takes the money up front and just blows it like a drunken sailor.

    Of course, whenever meaningful reform is suggested, wasteful Democrats, who HATE humanity (specifically their constituents), first cackle in laughter and then shut it down. When the option for personal retirement accounts was presented, Democrats instantly quashed that in a heated moment of panic.

    Social Security is very bad and should be abolished ... today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    Now I'm confused. What is the dividing line? How do I know when the standard struggle for a business to remain in business somehow becomes fascism?
    you're not confused.

    stfu fascist.

    when you're getting no bid government contracts as one in a basic cartel of 4 or 5, you've crossed the rubicon, dipshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    I really hate to splash you with cold water, but this quote doesn't mean what you think it means. Mussolini and Gentile used the term "corporate" (as translated from Italian with meaning lost in the translation) as the "body" of the state which "incorporates" all of the classes. Thus, fascism created a "corporate" state.

    You are trying to take translated Italian rhetoric of the 1930s and force fit that round peg into the square hole of today's politically-mangled usage of those terms. That can never end well.

    Mussolini and Gentile (and Hitler) presumed that all businesses and corporations would be subservient tools of the government. Mussolini had his "Ministry of Corporations" to keep all commerce under a tight rein. Hitler, of course, put all business under the direct control of Herman Goering.

    There was no sharing of power with corporations. There was never any intention of allowing business leaders to have any say in the government. You misunderstood the use of the word "corporate."
    yes.

    it means exactly what i think it does, fascist.


    if you ever received a no bid government contract you're definitely a fascist.

    since your looking for guidelines, that;s one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusAI View Post
    if you ever received a no bid government contract you're definitely a fascist.

    since your looking for guidelines, that;s one.
    For a while now I have suspected that your grossly oversimplified views stem from a profound lack of understanding in economics and in major sectors of our society ... and this post of yours confirms my suspicions.

    I don't suppose you are looking to fill in the gaps necessary to become enlightened so I'll just leave you with this:

    No-bid contracts are necessary. Every week new urgent requirements emerge that can only be met by one vendor/contractor (called an "offerer") with unique capabilities/skills. All across the country and all around the world, offerers with unique capabilities/skills draft up white papers clearly describing and explaining their unique specialty and distribute those white papers to organizations that would most likely benefit from their unique goods and services. The organizations keep the white papers on file along with the offerers' information and review them when unique requirements emerge.

    In such cases that only one offerer can meet a requirement, it would be silly to ask the contracting office to develop a list of requirements for the final solution because there will only be one solution available within the required timeframe and that solution already exists. So the contracting office has to write up a contract for which there won't be any bidding, with a known solution that already exists and a published price tag. It ends up working the same as an office going down to Staples for four boxes of black toner.

    When other offerers get in the game by offering their own solutions that solve the same problems, the contracting office opens the matter up to competing bids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Democrats actually want things like Social Security. GOP always attacks that program.
    and they love using large corporations to enforce their nazi agenda of mass death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusAI View Post
    and they love using large corporations to enforce their nazi agenda of mass death.
    sounds good

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    sounds good
    U r evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusAI View Post
    U r evil.
    You are a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You are a troll.
    Dont you think its wrong to commit genocide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusAI View Post
    Dont you think its wrong to commit genocide?
    Don't you think it is wrong to be a troll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    For a while now I have suspected that your grossly oversimplified views stem from a profound lack of understanding in economics and in major sectors of our society ... and this post of yours confirms my suspicions.

    I don't suppose you are looking to fill in the gaps necessary to become enlightened so I'll just leave you with this:

    No-bid contracts are necessary. Every week new urgent requirements emerge that can only be met by one vendor/contractor (called an "offerer") with unique capabilities/skills. All across the country and all around the world, offerers with unique capabilities/skills draft up white papers clearly describing and explaining their unique specialty and distribute those white papers to organizations that would most likely benefit from their unique goods and services. The organizations keep the white papers on file along with the offerers' information and review them when unique requirements emerge.

    In such cases that only one offerer can meet a requirement, it would be silly to ask the contracting office to develop a list of requirements for the final solution because there will only be one solution available within the required timeframe and that solution already exists. So the contracting office has to write up a contract for which there won't be any bidding, with a known solution that already exists and a published price tag. It ends up working the same as an office going down to Staples for four boxes of black toner.

    When other offerers get in the game by offering their own solutions that solve the same problems, the contracting office opens the matter up to competing bids.
    Yes we know you believe in fascism.

    You are a fascist.

    We know what you believe in. Fascism
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    'Merit based' monopoly?

    Still fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusAI View Post
    Yes we know you believe in fascism. You are a fascist. We know what you believe in.Fascism
    This would be more meaningful if your idea of fascism weren't NOT-fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusAI View Post
    'Merit based' monopoly? Still fascism.
    This would be more meaningful if by "merit-based monopoly" you didn't mean "everyone is free and welcome to compete" or if by "fascism" you didn't mean "the government must follow strict laws created by the legislature of a representational republic."

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