Marx

[goat]

Marx had 4 stages of capitalism. What we call late-stage capitalism today, Marx called it state capitalism by predicting capitalists would own the state (state meaning government). That's exactly where we are right now and have been for quite some time.

Over 1000 derailments a year proves that capitalists profits are more important than the lives of we the people. These CEOs are psychopaths. It may take a decade or 2 before the people of East Palestine, OH start dying of cancer, but past manmade disasters show it's inevitable.

[IBDaMann]

Marx had 4 stages of capitalism.

Totally stupid. I don't need to read any further.

The word "capitalism" is just Marx's slur for sound economic principles. Marx was a lazy bastard who was non-competitive in a world of competition, and he pouted and cried "That's NOT FAIR!"

So, in his mind, he anthropomorphized economics and made it the evil archvillain of his sad little world. Instead of treating it as the supply-demand curve model that it is, Marx was forever portraying economics in the same way Christians portray Satan, complete with magical superpowers and the incessant desire to destroy humanity. Those who are stupid enough to fall for it really have no one else to blame. Don't be gullible.

Economics does not have any stages. Economics models are tools to facilitate the building of economies that create wealth, that add value to society and that improve the lives of everyone participating in the economy.

[BidenPresident]

Totally stupid. I don't need to read any further.

The word "capitalism" is just Marx's slur for sound economic principles. Marx was a lazy bastard who was non-competitive in a world of competition, and he pouted and cried "That's NOT FAIR!"

Stupid, stupid, comment.

[IBDaMann]

Stupid, stupid, comment.

I get it. You are rather embarrassed for not having done your homework before firing off a stupid post. I recommend performing due diligence next time and conducting a modicum of research before posting, to catch the egregious errors before you have to backpedal.

Yes, your post was really stupid, but I think I made that abundantly clear.

[BidenPresident]

I get it. You are rather embarrassed for not having done your homework before firing off a stupid post. I recommend performing due diligence next time and conducting a modicum of research before posting, to catch the egregious errors before you have to backpedal.

Yes, your post was really stupid, but I think I made that abundantly clear.

into the night of stupidity

[IBDaMann]

into the night of stupidity

Yes, yes ... I am obviously Into the Night. Too funny. You got me. I won't bother denying it.

At least we now have a very good indication of why you can't seem to get anything right. You are a dullard ... who has one very razor-sharp sense of perception, that cannot be denied.

Tell me more about how you believe Karl Marx was an economics Nostradamus. You are so amazingly brilliant, ... so very, very brilliant. Too funny.

[AProudLefty]

I get it. You are rather embarrassed for not having done your homework before firing off a stupid post. I recommend performing due diligence next time and conducting a modicum of research before posting, to catch the egregious errors before you have to backpedal.

Yes, your post was really stupid, but I think I made that abundantly clear.

You will never be a sane poster.

Cope.

[Uncensored2008]

Stupid, stupid, comment.

How would you know, honestly?

You've never read Marx. You have no clue what the subject is - you only know that your party supports Marxism - so you do.

Of course Marx did not write of "stages of capitalism" as that would be utterly stupid. Marx wrote of the stages of HISTORY and organizational structures. The OP is simply ignorant.

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1) the tribal form. Tribal society has no social classes but is structured around kinship relations, with hunting the province of men and domestic work the province of women. The tribal form, according to Marx and Engels, is quite elementary at this stage, "a further extension of the natural division of labour existing in the family" (44). During this stage, it is also possible to see a slave culture established, particularly as the population increases, leading to "the growth of wants" and the growth of relations with outside civilizations (through war or barter). With slave culture, we see the beginning of class society.

2) primitive communism: "the ancient communal and State ownership which proceeds especially from the union of several tribes into a city by agreement or by conquest" (44). During this stage, the concept of private property begins to develop: "With the development of private property, we find here for the first time the same conditions which we shall find again, only on a more extensive scale, with modern private property. On the one hand, the concentration of private property...; on the other hand, coupled with this, the transformation of the plebeian small peasantry into a proletariat" (44-45).

3) feudal or estate property: "Like tribal and communal ownership, it is based again on a community; but the directly producing class standing over against it is not, as in the case of the ancient community, the slaves, but the enserfed small peasantry" (45). In the city, the feudal structure manifested itself in trade guilds. The organization of both the country and the city "was determined by the restricted conditions of production—the small-scale and primitive cultivation of the land, and the craft type of industry" (46), which meant that there "was little division of labour in the heyday of feudalism" (46). Exploitation functioned differently during stage than during the heigth of capitalism because each feudal peasant knew exactly what proportion of his labor had to be handed over to the aristocracy and the church; the rest was his or hers to use.

4) capitalism: because of the eventual growth of commerce (and of human populations), feudal society began to accumulate capital, which, along with the increased debt incurred by the aristocracy, eventually led to the English Revolution of 1640 and the French Revolution of 1789, both of which opened the way for the establishment of a society structured around commodities and profit (i.e. capitalism). In such a society, the proletariat is fooled into believing that s/he is free because s/he is paid for his/her labor. In fact, the transformation of labor into an abstract quantity that can be bought and sold on the market leads to the exploitation of the proletariat, benefitting a small percentage of the population in control of capital. The working class thus experiences alienation since the members of this class feel they are not in control of the forces driving them into a given job. The reason for this situation is that someone else owns the means of production, which are treated like private property.

https://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/...arxstages.html

[BidenPresident]

You've never read Marx.

I have read a lot of Marx.

[Uncensored2008]

I have read a lot of Marx.

Bullshit.

You've not read a "lot" of anything - save perhaps comic books.

[Matt Dillon]

Stupid, stupid, comment.

Marx never did a day of work in his entire life.

[goat]

Totally stupid. I don't need to read any further.

The word "capitalism" is just Marx's slur for sound economic principles. Marx was a lazy bastard who was non-competitive in a world of competition, and he pouted and cried "That's NOT FAIR!"

So, in his mind, he anthropomorphized economics and made it the evil archvillain of his sad little world. Instead of treating it as the supply-demand curve model that it is, Marx was forever portraying economics in the same way Christians portray Satan, complete with magical superpowers and the incessant desire to destroy humanity. Those who are stupid enough to fall for it really have no one else to blame. Don't be gullible.

Economics does not have any stages. Economics models are tools to facilitate the building of economies that create wealth, that add value to society and that improve the lives of everyone participating in the economy.

Marx was one of the top 5 economists in the last 200 years. Capital is one of the best economic books ever written. Capitalism goes bankrupt and needs a bailout on average of every 7 years.

6 bankruptcies and bailouts in 37 years.

The S&L bailout of 1986
Black Monday of 1987
Dotcom scam of 1995
Subprime scam of 2007
Covid bailout of 2020
The upcoming bankruptcy of 2023

You do the math.

[IBDaMann]

Marx was one of the top 5 economists in the last 200 years.

Marx was not an economist. He hated economics and created an anti-economics religion: Marxism. I see that you are a preacher of this religion, which means that you suck at economics (a hard, fast requirement of the religion).

Capital is one of the best economic books ever written.

Das Kapital is more of a "Satanic Bible" (economics-wise) than it is any sort of economics textbook. The volumes have nothing to do with economics. I presume you either haven't read them, or you really have no idea what economics is and conflate it with a passionate hatred for economics.

Das Kapital is nothing more than bitching and moaning and whining and griping and complaining ... and NEVER addresses economics.

Capitalism goes bankrupt and needs a bailout on average of every 7 years.

Stupid, uneducated comment. Economics never goes bankrupt. Economics never needs any sort of bailout. Go to school and learn something.

[goat]

Marx was not an economist. He hated economics and created an anti-economics religion: Marxism. I see that you are a preacher of this religion, which means that you suck at economics (a hard, fast requirement of the religion).


Das Kapital is more of a "Satanic Bible" (economics-wise) than it is any sort of economics textbook. The volumes have nothing to do with economics. I presume you either haven't read them, or you really have no idea what economics is and conflate it with a passionate hatred for economics.

Das Kapital is nothing more than bitching and moaning and whining and griping and complaining ... and NEVER addresses economics.


Stupid, uneducated comment. Economics never goes bankrupt. Economics never needs any sort of bailout. Go to school and learn something.

Name the last economic book you read.

[AProudLefty]

Marx was not an economist. He hated economics and created an anti-economics religion: Marxism. I see that you are a preacher of this religion, which means that you suck at economics (a hard, fast requirement of the religion).


Das Kapital is more of a "Satanic Bible" (economics-wise) than it is any sort of economics textbook. The volumes have nothing to do with economics. I presume you either haven't read them, or you really have no idea what economics is and conflate it with a passionate hatred for economics.

Das Kapital is nothing more than bitching and moaning and whining and griping and complaining ... and NEVER addresses economics.


Stupid, uneducated comment. Economics never goes bankrupt. Economics never needs any sort of bailout. Go to school and learn something.

You will never understand economics.

Cope.