Reply With QuoteTake the libertarian idea of unlimited freedom. Comes from the same faulty myth of unlimited power.
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Theology Question
If God is all powerful, why can God not make everyone happy? If God created the entire universe, why not create a utopia?
If God cannot make everyone happy, God is not all powerful.
If God can make everyone happy and does not, God is cruel and petty.
Solution, God is not all powerful and cannot make everyone happy.
Even God has limits to power.
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Take the libertarian idea of unlimited freedom. Comes from the same faulty myth of unlimited power.
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"This is the best of all possible worlds". -LeibnizOriginally Posted by BidenPresident
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Good quote, thank you. What Leibniz meant is that this is the best God could do.
The possible worlds pre-exist God's choice. Thus, the universe is limited, as is God's power.
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As I understood it meant that God did as good as it could possibly be done while preserving His plans for his creation. This is the best possible configuration of events that can be conceived. As such God performed exactly correctly.
(NOte: I'm not a big believer in any of this, it's just how I understood the "Problem of Evil" to be addressed most efficiently)
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Leibniz says the possibilities exist before God's will. Thus, God is choosing, not creating out of nothing.
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How would you know what happiness is without sadness?
How would you know what utopia is without imperfections?
anonymoose (02-25-2023), Celticguy (02-21-2023)
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If people are happy they are not missing out on anything.
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Why would a utopian world think about imperfections?
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Well if you are a Diest, God created the world and stepped back, if a Christian, he gave man free will to create his own world, which resulted in the mess we have before us now
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Both are wrong. Bad philosophy.
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Not philosophy, theology, huge difference
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No, same thing. Philosophy tackles any topic it wants. Especially metaphysics.
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What makes this limited power entity a god, then?
Wouldn't it be less of a stretch to assume that deities don't exist than to define them with contrived and confusing attributes?
We simply have no hard evidence that a god exists, and if one did, it would more than likely make itself VERY known on a basis more regular than 2000+ year intervals.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969
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false assumption based upon bias and ignorance.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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