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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    No, it's not a fallacy. I'm just saying you are a joke. That is about as accurate as imaginable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    I love your obsession with Stefan-Boltzmann and the Second Law of Thermo. Now if only you knew what either one was actually about it might be interesting to read your posts.
    You don't get to declare what others understand and what they don't. You can at most make observations of understanding.

    With that said, what have you observed that indicates Into the Night doesn't understand those science models? Or is it really you who doesn't have the vaguest clue?
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    You don't get to declare what others understand and what they don't.
    But IntotheNight has effectively declared he doesn't know much about either topic.

    You can at most make observations of understanding.
    Which I have.

    With that said, what have you observed that indicates Into the Night doesn't understand those science models? Or is it really you who doesn't have the vaguest clue?
    Well, his "definition" of the second law left out a MAJOR caveat and didn't even really look like how anyone who actually DOES understand it would summarize it. As for S-B, well, he never talks about it in detail, he just declares everyone is violating it somehow.

    I can guarantee you they don't know what they are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    But IntotheNight has effectively declared he doesn't know much about either topic.
    Nope. You have ineffectively declared that he doesn't know much, and you don't get to declare beyond your observations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    Well, his "definition" of the second law left out a MAJOR caveat and didn't even really look like how anyone who actually DOES understand it would summarize it.
    Since he and I have had many discussions on the topic, you are going to have to be specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    As for S-B, well, he never talks about it in detail, he just declares everyone is violating it somehow.
    He understands Stefan-Boltzmann so if he states that you are violating it, you most likely are. You, on the other hand, have not demonstrated any understanding of Stefan-Boltzmann that I have seen.

    If you want, I'll help you out. What is your position that Into the Night asserts violates Stefan-Boltzmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    I can guarantee you they don't know what they are talking about.
    Nope. You cannot make that guarantee.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    Since he and I have had many discussions on the topic, you are going to have to be specific.
    Already explained it to you. Guess you don't know the Second Law either!

    If you want, I'll help you out. What is your position that Into the Night asserts violates Stefan-Boltzmann?
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    Already explained it to you. Sorry you don't understand it enough to have caught that.

    That was easy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    Already explained it to you. Guess you don't know the Second Law either!
    Already explained it to you. Sorry you don't understand it enough to have caught that.
    That was easy!
    So you think that by simply erupting into a temper tantrum, you effectively EVADE my perfectly valid question? That's how you play it?

    I know what happened. You realized that your religious faith would take a hit if you started down that road and you had to prevent it at any cost. I get it.

    I realize that your religion is a particularly nasty parasite from which you can't just walk away when it becomes debilitating and embarrassing. You are in a world of hurt.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    So you think that by simply erupting into a temper tantrum, you effectively EVADE my perfectly valid question? That's how you play it?
    I didn't evade. I answered your question. You were too stupid to understand the answer.

    I realize that your religion is a particularly nasty parasite from which you can't just walk away when it becomes debilitating and embarrassing. You are in a world of hurt.
    I get that this is "entertainment" for you, but I have to ask why. You clearly don't have any science background and certainly not in this area, so why do you strut around and pose like you do? You wouldn't last 15 minutes in real science lab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    You say pretend but they say "If I feel it to be true then it is true, my feelings cant be wrong".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    I didn't evade. I answered your question. You were too stupid to understand the answer.

    I get that this is "entertainment" for you, but I have to ask why. You clearly don't have any science background and certainly not in this area, so why do you strut around and pose like you do? You wouldn't last 15 minutes in real science lab.
    I get it. My mistake was offering to help you, wasn't it? You realized that letting me teach you something would reveal that you are a scientifically illiterate moron. So you had to cover with a childish tantrum and more declarations that I somehow don't know what I know.

    Your religion has a lock on you and someone is taking advantage of your bent-over position to test the pliability of your colon.

    Nonetheless, my offer stands. If (and when) you need help, just ask. You can dispense with the declarations.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    You say pretend but they say "If I feel it to be true then it is true, my feelings cant be wrong".
    This is spot on. This is why they so often begin with "I feel that ..."

    They think this makes their position "correct".
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    I get it. My mistake was offering to help you, wasn't it? You realized that letting me teach you something would reveal that you are a scientifically illiterate moron. So you had to cover with a childish tantrum and more declarations that I somehow don't know what I know.

    Your religion has a lock on you and someone is taking advantage of your bent-over position to test the pliability of your colon.

    Nonetheless, my offer stands. If (and when) you need help, just ask. You can dispense with the declarations.
    LOL.

    Sorry but having a non-scientist tell me about science, while hilarious usually, is not required at this time.

    Thanks, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    This is spot on. This is why they so often begin with "I feel that ..."

    They think this makes their position "correct".
    We used to say "I think...." now most say "I feel...."

    I would not mind if people were still thinking but this is often not so. Peter Hitchens says that these low grade humans running around now often are not capable of thinking, they never learned, and they dont want to.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    LOL.

    Sorry but having a non-scientist tell me about science, while hilarious usually, is not required at this time.

    Thanks, though.
    The offer stands. However, if you don't ask for help, I'll simply rake you over the coals and you can try to reconcile how a "non-scientist" handed you, a science genius, your ass. It will be a lot of fun ... for me.

    Enjoy.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    The offer stands. However, if you don't ask for help, I'll simply rake you over the coals and you can try to reconcile how a "non-scientist" handed you, a science genius, your ass. It will be a lot of fun ... for me.

    Enjoy.

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    Just saw this which speaks to the subject.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don’t laugh, this actually makes sense if you realize that Climate Change is a religion, and Greta Thunberg is one of its high priestesses. <a href="https://t.co/IMao4tf9z7">pic.twitter.com/IMao4tf9z7</a></p>&mdash; Gonzalo Lira (@GonzaloLira1968) <a href="https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1638086871531094017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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