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Thread: EV's now more expensive in time and money to refuel than ICE vehicles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Why would you assume it always changes? Why would your authors assume it always has to be replaced?
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    If the new device uses the same plug then what electrical changes need to be made? Is there a cost if no changes are made? At this point you are simply defending biased assumptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    It's actually easier to answer with fewer letters with either a "yes" or "no". But you seem to want to hide the answer. OK. I'll resume my assumption that you are a middle school janitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Luckily for me, if I am eventually forced into this stupidity by government with no alternative, I can wire my own circuit with stuff lying about the garage for free. Advantage of doing electrical contracting for years...
    Well then everyone can. Otherwise, your answer is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Well then everyone can. Otherwise, your answer is irrelevant.
    No, everyone can't. That is unless you think you are some sort of highly proficient handyman around your house, particularly with things electrical. What size and type of wire would you use for a 40 amp 240V 4 wire circuit to power your charger? What color should the wires be? What size box would you install for the receptacle? If you have to use EMT, do you know how to install it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    It's actually easier to answer with fewer letters with either a "yes" or "no". But you seem to want to hide the answer. OK. I'll resume my assumption that you are a middle school janitor.

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    What's wrong with being a middle school janitor? Think you could do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Well then everyone can. Otherwise, your answer is irrelevant.
    How naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No, everyone can't. That is unless you think you are some sort of highly proficient handyman around your house, particularly with things electrical. What size and type of wire would you use for a 40 amp 240V 4 wire circuit to power your charger? What color should the wires be? What size box would you install for the receptacle? If you have to use EMT, do you know how to install it?
    Heh. You think he would install one that is up to code?? He doesn't even know what the electrical code is!
    Well...it's his fire hazard. I don't think insurance would cover the loss either, since it was never up to code.

    That's assuming, of course, that he doesn't electrocute himself first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    What's wrong with being a middle school janitor? Think you could do it?
    Nothing is wrong with it. And yes I believe I could do it. I think I have the abilities. Can you tell me if the test was really hard to get the license?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    He already answered, dumbass.
    Your sock-game is showing. "He" in this case....was YOU. I was responding to YOU.

    most people refer to themselves as "I", not "he".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    Nothing is wrong with it. And yes I believe I could do it. I think I have the abilities. Can you tell me if the test was really hard to get the license?
    I dunno. I am a retired Machinist/Toolmaker.

    Me? I couldn't because I don't know plumbing, HVAC, boilers, 110/240 volt electrical, building maintenance/repair and I hate ladders....but you must? Lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, that's their opinion. Mine is it is a distinct possibility on the basis of three things:

    1. Variations between models and manufacturers of EV vehicles in terms of charging plugs
    2. Variations in voltages and phases used in charging equipment
    3. Changes in the rate of charge resulting in changes in the charging equipment itself.

    These are no different than how many other types of electronic devices have evolved.
    Yeah.. because I had to change my outlets every time I upgraded my computer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No, everyone can't. That is unless you think you are some sort of highly proficient handyman around your house, particularly with things electrical. What size and type of wire would you use for a 40 amp 240V 4 wire circuit to power your charger? What color should the wires be? What size box would you install for the receptacle? If you have to use EMT, do you know how to install it?
    Anyone with access to a computer can find those answers in less than 10 minutes.

    It took me less than 30 seconds to find the answers for almost all of those questions.
    http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-w...t-outlets.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Heh. You think he would install one that is up to code?? He doesn't even know what the electrical code is!
    Well...it's his fire hazard. I don't think insurance would cover the loss either, since it was never up to code.

    That's assuming, of course, that he doesn't electrocute himself first!
    Toss in depending on the jurisdiction, you may have to get a permit and have it inspected...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Anyone with access to a computer can find those answers in less than 10 minutes.

    It took me less than 30 seconds to find the answers for almost all of those questions.
    http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-w...t-outlets.html
    Good luck with that. That hardly begins to explain the reality of wiring your water heater...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Good luck with that. That hardly begins to explain the reality of wiring your water heater...
    ...especially wiring a gas hot water heater!
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