Vented CO2 in water will vent until it equals the CO2 partial pressure in the air.
Since these ecowackos are so scared of CO2, either in the air or in the ocean water, how are you going to account for that?
The only way to produce the synthesis mixture without producing CO2 is electrolysis. That will require tremendous amounts of power, more than an EV would use.
Last edited by Into the Night; 02-06-2023 at 01:39 PM.
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"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
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That is not development. It's bullheadedness. Buzzword fallacy. Solar is the most expensive method of producing electricity, watt for watt. Wind is 2nd. Nuclear power is far cheaper. Oil, natural gas, and coal are even cheaper than that.
The only way solar and wind can make a 'profit' at all is because of government grants and subsidies supporting it or even mandating it.
No, fascism and communism is not the way, and it is not development.
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"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
Liquid hydrogen certainly has it's problems but they are working on other ways of delivering it. We are not on the edge of a solution but its not because they are not trying.
EVs can be a partial solution while research and development continues but ICE is going nowhere anytime soon.
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The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
I didn't realize that the cost of an EV includes installing a new charger in your home every few years. Do they wear out and need to be replaced?
Then your researchers "without an agenda" use some funny numbers. They calculated gasoline would cost $2.81 per gallon for the next 5 years with no increase in cost. It is currently more than that.
Then they assumed the cost for electricity is higher than the current average cost. US average for kwh is 12.56 cents from Nov of 2022. Your "unbiased" researchers used 17 cents. They state that the cost for evening charging could be half of the daytime cost for electricity in some areas but never account for that drop in cost. That would imply they are using costs that are at least 33% higher than normal for the electricity used to charge at night in one's home.
This is hardly a dispassionate group. They use suspect methodology and inflated electrical costs.
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Liquid hydrogen is not practical in a car. The cryogenic plant is too heavy. Hydrogen cars use pressurized hydrogen gas at about 3000psi.
ICE cars have had quite a few developments and are still the most popular car. Less than 1% of the cars on the road are EVs.
They are not only going places, they are passing EVs doing it.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
Like computers and other tech today, they become obsolescent or obsolete. Let's say you install a Tesla home station this year and in 5 years decide to buy another brand of EV that is incompatible with your Tesla charging station. Now you need a new charging station. Or, you decide to upgrade yours, or whatever.
The cost of electricity is based on what public charging stations price at. Those charge higher rates than the nominal per KW rate.Then your researchers "without an agenda" use some funny numbers. They calculated gasoline would cost $2.81 per gallon for the next 5 years with no increase in cost. It is currently more than that.
Then they assumed the cost for electricity is higher than the current average cost. US average for kwh is 12.56 cents from Nov of 2022. Your "unbiased" researchers used 17 cents. They state that the cost for evening charging could be half of the daytime cost for electricity in some areas but never account for that drop in cost. That would imply they are using costs that are at least 33% higher than normal for the electricity used to charge at night in one's home.
This is hardly a dispassionate group. They use suspect methodology and inflated electrical costs.
gfm7175 (02-07-2023), Into the Night (02-06-2023)
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
Says it all. Want to bet it gets more complicated as this goes on?
I can see this ending up like...
gfm7175 (02-07-2023)
Yup. Oh, that last one the Molex 4-pin connector is incorrect. It's an AMP 4-pin connector. Molex does not make a shell like that. I noticed that this list doesn't show any of the numerous optical connectors.
When you look at a charging station, usually several 'nozzles' are hanging from the same charger because of the different connector. Worse, international sales are hurt because of the different standards used in different countries. Kind of like the fun you get with power adapters when you travel. Unfortunately, these are high current plugs, and adapters are less practical. At least in America, the J1772 plug is physically compatible with CCS1. It just charges at a slower rate. In the EU, it's a similar situation with the Mennekes and CCS2. Then, of course, their is Tesla, with their own proprietary connector.
I think your assessment of EV plugs is spot on. It will get worse too, as requirements change.
Last edited by Into the Night; 02-06-2023 at 07:20 PM.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
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