Ron Klain quits

[christiefan915]

Sadly Ashley can't say she had no showers with Pedo Pete. (aka Slow Joe)

BTW do I need to explain the phrase "do tell"?

Still no evidence that Biden is "Pedo Pete?"

[ExpressLane]

I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse and never lived in West Virginia, to boot. Purdue pharma is just a symbol for the damage caused by pharma greed. Here's a starter book to read: Dopesick: Dealers, Doctors and the Drug Company That Addicted America. There are also many others that point the finger at big pharma and how addiction to so-called legal drugs is exploited for profit.

If I read your comments correctly, you're trying to make the argument that "good" parents don't have drug-addicted kids. I don't know of any parent who willingly set out to create an addict. There are many other factors such as peer pressure, risk-taking, disposable funds and physical and mental problems. If you and your kids said no to drug use, kudos. But you're just one positive anecdote in the history of addiction.

I also think you and others are filling in the blanks to Ashley's one-line diary entry to see what you want to see because you hate Biden. There's no backstory to explain the comment in detail. It seems like you're discounting the porn industry as having no effect on behaviour. Pornhub states that the US is its biggest porn consumer in the world.

It's lazy thinking to blame the Biden family's (or any family's) drug problems on the father or mother. Every criticism made on this forum is by posters who hate Biden and want to bring him down, so I take it all with a grain of salt.

I find it odd that raised TWO kids with Sex, Alcohol, and Drug addictions.

[christiefan915]

I find it odd that raised TWO kids with Sex, Alcohol, and Drug addictions.

I find it odd that you seem to think this is exclusive to the Biden family.

Btw they didn't "raise" two kids with addictions, the kids got addicted by themselves.

[ExpressLane]

Still no evidence that Biden is "Pedo Pete?"

There is evidence you just don't accept it. They have hunter's phone directory from the cloud and it has Joe's unpublished back line listed as Pedo Pete.

[christiefan915]

There is evidence you just don't accept it. They have hunter's phone directory from the cloud and it has Joe's unpublished back line listed as Pedo Pete.

LINK

[ThatOwlWoman]

As you watch this, think of the great children Brandon has raised.

[anonymoose]

I was wrong. I thought the son, Ronald Reagan, had publicly stated that he was homosexual...had "come out." It was a mistake...not a lie. I apologize.

Whenever I am wrong...I acknowledge it.

And I respect that. I've done the same.

You are correct, hating one's father is not unusual. But my comment was that Reagan's kids WROTE BOOKS that spoke of, specifically and inferentially, how bad Reagan and Nancy were as parents. And that is correct.

Would it be in this book by Ron Reagan Jr.?
My Father at 100: A Memoir Kindle Edition
by Ron Reagan
A moving memoir of the beloved fortieth president of the United States, by his son.
https://www.amazon.com/My-Father-at-...t%2C180&sr=1-2

Or by Patti Davis?
The Long Goodbye Kindle Edition
by Patti Davis
The author delves into her memories to touch her father again, to hear his voice, to keep alive the years she had with him.

She writes as if past and present were coming together, of her memories as a child, holding her father’ s hand, and as a young woman whose hand is being given away in marriage by her father . . . of her father teaching her to ride a bicycle, of the moment when he let her go and she went off on her own . . . of his teaching her the difference between a hawk and a buzzard . . . of the family summer vacations at a rented beach house–each of them tan, her father looking like the athlete he was, with a swimmer’s broad shoulders and lean torso. . . .
https://www.amazon.com/Long-Goodbye-...t%2C219&sr=1-2

Or would it be in books by his adopted son?
Lessons My Father Taught Me: The Strength, Integrity, and Faith of Ronald Reagan
by Michael Reagan |
Buy now with 1-Click ®
In the Words of Ronald Reagan: The Wit, Wisdom, and Eternal Optimism of America's 40th President

by Michael Reagan
Common Sense of an Uncommon Man

by Jim Denney and Michael Reagan
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=michael+r...f=nb_sb_noss_1

What books are you talking about "specifically and inferentially, how bad Reagan and Nancy were as parents" ? Well?

If you want to be of the opinion that a comment in someone's diary is "far more damning" I can understand that.

That's reasonable. Definitely far more damning than loving memoirs.

I consider you to be a disgusting American conservative and a fucking moron, so it makes sense.

Respect lost. That didn't last long. Besides I'm a liberal. https://www.britannica.com/topic/lib...cal-liberalism

Anything else left to discuss about this, Asshole?

Yes . I want to see a link to those alleged books "that spoke of, specifically and inferentially, how bad Reagan and Nancy were as parents." If you can't provide them I have to assume , once again, you're lying.
Of course if you can't and man up, that makes twice in one thread. That would be a pattern.
Your turn.

[anonymoose]

I suspect you're being deliberately obtuse and never lived in West Virginia, to boot. Purdue pharma is just a symbol for the damage caused by pharma greed. Here's a starter book to read: Dopesick: Dealers, Doctors and the Drug Company That Addicted America. There are also many others that point the finger at big pharma and how addiction to so-called legal drugs is exploited for profit.

What does this have to do w/ Hunter? He was addicted to an illegal drug.

If I read your comments correctly, you're trying to make the argument that "good" parents don't have drug-addicted kids. I don't know of any parent who willingly set out to create an addict.

Where did I say Brandon willingly created a crack and a sex addict?

There are many other factors such as peer pressure, risk-taking, disposable funds and physical and mental problems. If you and your kids said no to drug use, kudos. But you're just one positive anecdote in the history of addiction.

I've personally known very few cocaine addicts in my life. One or two actually. I've known of several sex addicts, male and female. The males I knew were both classmates of mine. Their fathers were definitely not the most honorable of society (according to the addicts themselves). Look at Tiger Woods. He definitely acquired that behavior from his father.
Just saying, odds are, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. One can be a bad parent by example. We don't really know much about Biden for sure except that he was a poor student who plagiarized, although I'll give him somewhat of a break on that. I think he was probably too stupid to realize he plagiarized.

I also think you and others are filling in the blanks to Ashley's one-line diary entry to see what you want to see because you hate Biden

. I don't hate Biden. In fact I hate Trump more. But like most other presidents, I have no respect for either of them. None.

It seems like you're discounting the porn industry as having no effect on behaviour. Pornhub states that the US is its biggest porn consumer in the world.

Yet it had no effect on my kids. Hopefully not yours too, assuming you have them.

It's lazy thinking to blame the Biden family's (or any family's) drug problems on the father or mother. Every criticism made on this forum is by posters who hate Biden and want to bring him down, so I take it all with a grain of salt.

The only presidents I wouldn't want to bring down in my late childhood thru adult lifetime are Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Sr., Clinton, and Obama. So Biden is not alone.
As I've stated, 3 or 4 deserve to be shot as war criminals and/or traitors.

[Frank Apisa]

And I respect that. I've done the same.

Would it be in this book by Ron Reagan Jr.?
My Father at 100: A Memoir Kindle Edition
by Ron Reagan
A moving memoir of the beloved fortieth president of the United States, by his son.
https://www.amazon.com/My-Father-at-...t%2C180&sr=1-2

Or by Patti Davis?
The Long Goodbye Kindle Edition
by Patti Davis
The author delves into her memories to touch her father again, to hear his voice, to keep alive the years she had with him.

She writes as if past and present were coming together, of her memories as a child, holding her father’ s hand, and as a young woman whose hand is being given away in marriage by her father . . . of her father teaching her to ride a bicycle, of the moment when he let her go and she went off on her own . . . of his teaching her the difference between a hawk and a buzzard . . . of the family summer vacations at a rented beach house–each of them tan, her father looking like the athlete he was, with a swimmer’s broad shoulders and lean torso. . . .
https://www.amazon.com/Long-Goodbye-...t%2C219&sr=1-2

Or would it be in books by his adopted son?
Lessons My Father Taught Me: The Strength, Integrity, and Faith of Ronald Reagan
by Michael Reagan |
Buy now with 1-Click ®
In the Words of Ronald Reagan: The Wit, Wisdom, and Eternal Optimism of America's 40th President

by Michael Reagan
Common Sense of an Uncommon Man

by Jim Denney and Michael Reagan
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=michael+r...f=nb_sb_noss_1

What books are you talking about "specifically and inferentially, how bad Reagan and Nancy were as parents" ? Well?

That's reasonable. Definitely far more damning than loving memoirs.
Respect lost. That didn't last long. Besides I'm a liberal. https://www.britannica.com/topic/lib...cal-liberalism


Yes . I want to see a link to those alleged books "that spoke of, specifically and inferentially, how bad Reagan and Nancy were as parents." If you can't provide them I have to assume , once again, you're lying.
Of course if you can't and man up, that makes twice in one thread. That would be a pattern.
Your turn.

I do not much give a shit what you assume because you are an asshole.

And if you want to think Ronald Reagan is an appropriate avatar for family values...think it. Some of the shit for which you advocate is even worse, so no big deal.

Frankly, I considered Reagan to be a happy warrior...with a decent personality. I voted for him the first time he ran...and deeply regretted it when I realized how dedicated to the idea of "government is the problem." (Mostly I was voting against Carter...which was another mistake I acknowledge.) Bottom line, he was a loser.

[anonymoose]

I do not much give a shit what you assume because you are an asshole.

Well you aren't the first and won't be the last to think that. But that's irrelevant. YOu didn't man up, therefore you lied.

Some of the shit for which you advocate is even worse,

LIke liberalism?

Frankly, I considered Reagan to be a happy warrior...with a decent personality. Bottom line, he was a loser.

Not according to his three kids who knew him far better than you. Liar.

[Frank Apisa]

Well you aren't the first and won't be the last to think that. But that's irrelevant. YOu didn't man up, therefore you lied.
LIke liberalism?
Not according to his three kids who knew him far better than you. Liar.

[anonymoose]

I always know when I've won an argument here.

you are an asshole.

My adversary resorts to ad homs.
Until next time...

[Frank Apisa]

I always know when I've won an argument here.
My adversary resorts to ad homs.
Until next time...

[anonymoose]

Pathetic.

YOu're better than that.
Or maybe not.

[Nordberg]

Joe and his wife had 4 kids. One and his wife died in a car accident. The oldest Beau graduated Univ. of Pennsylvania and then Syracuse Law. He served in the National Guard and in Iraq.
Hunter graduated from college then Yale Law. He became a lobbyist. He had drug problems.
Naomi died in the car crash.
Ashley graduated from Tulane. She worked on his campaign .
He had 3 kids graduated and a couple had advanced degrees.
Joe is a practicing catholic and took his kids to church. That matters to many people. He did his parenting job well.