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    Default 517,000 jobs created in january

    3.4 unemployment

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    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Should we also look up the labor participation rate or no? Its best to look at both figures combined to draw a more accurate picture. Thats what we want right? To be accurate? Hopefully both numbers are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Should we also look up the labor participation rate or no? Its best to look at both figures combined to draw a more accurate picture. Thats what we want right? To be accurate? Hopefully both numbers are good.
    Much better than when Trump was President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    3.4 unemployment
    30 months ago, Donald Trumpf practically guaranteed that if voters dared to elect Biden there would be an unprecedented economic depression of catastrophic proportions

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    LPR is up,.....that is a very good thing. Are basement dwellers like LV FINALLY realizing they have to throw down the X box controller and get off their dead asses and go to work? They have a lot to pay for,....get to work and pay those taxes bitches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Holy smoke!

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    Funny how when faced with near starvation all of a sudden certain segments of society can somehow find jobs that they couldnt find before.......LOVE IT! GET TO WORK!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Should we also look up the labor participation rate or no? Its best to look at both figures combined to draw a more accurate picture. Thats what we want right? To be accurate? Hopefully both numbers are good.
    Let's make it simple for you. The employment numbers that we use are using the same system that we have used for decades. Their value is that using the same system allows us to easily compare month-to-month and year-to-year employment rates. The Labor Dept has several measurement systems with lots of different variables. However, we use the same one we always have to see quickly if employment is going up or down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Should we also look up the labor participation rate or no? Its best to look at both figures combined to draw a more accurate picture. Thats what we want right? To be accurate? Hopefully both numbers are good.
    No. Because it includes people who have no interest in working. Here is the reality of the labor force participation rate. It has been shrinking for white men for decades.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300028

    So the labor force participation rate was being boosted by women getting jobs. In recent years, fewer women are working, fewer teenagers are working, and the baby boomers turned retirement age. So of course the rate was going to go down. It went down because people VOLUNTARILY chose not to work.

    The Labor participation rate is a canard that the right has been spouting off about since Obama. But almost no one who cites the figure even understands what it means. So it is a meaningless statistic at this point. Unemployment is at a 50 year low, and I will guarantee you I will see zerohedge cited, someone will claim U-3 is not accurate (of course it is, it is calculated objectively) and whine about inflation, because at this point, the right is pulling against American. It's sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Let's make it simple for you. The employment numbers that we use are using the same system that we have used for decades. Their value is that using the same system allows us to easily compare month-to-month and year-to-year employment rates. The Labor Dept has several measurement systems with lots of different variables. However, we use the same one we always have to see quickly if employment is going up or down.
    GREAT! Im just glad that a lot of these people who could just never seem to find jobs before now have. Thats wonderful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    No. Because it includes people who have no interest in working. Here is the reality of the labor force participation rate. It has been shrinking for white men for decades.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300028

    So the labor force participation rate was being boosted by women getting jobs. In recent years, fewer women are working, fewer teenagers are working, and the baby boomers turned retirement age. So of course the rate was going to go down. It went down because people VOLUNTARILY chose not to work.

    The Labor participation rate is a canard that the right has been spouting off about since Obama. But almost no one who cites the figure even understands what it means. So it is a meaningless statistic at this point. Unemployment is at a 50 year low, and I will guarantee you I will see zerohedge cited, someone will claim U-3 is not accurate (of course it is, it is calculated objectively) and whine about inflation, because at this point, the right is pulling against American. It's sad.
    As I said,.....Im VERY happy that more people are employed now. Thats how it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    As I said,.....Im VERY happy that more people are employed now. Thats how it should be.
    So it's up. The fact that I didn't bother to look tells you how I feel about the rate. But it is good news. I'd like to look at the crosstabs and see where the jobs are being created.

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    I'm curious...

    In December the unemployment rate using the same bullshit metrics was 3.5%. In January it fell slightly to 3.4% The DoL claims 517,000 new jobs were created. That means for a .1% increase in employment 517,000 jobs were added. If you calculate this out, it would mean that 52 million (give or take) jobs were available in the US total (99.9 x 517000). Yet, the same people are telling us that there are about 155 million jobs in America right now...

    Methinks that the people pushing these numbers are making a lot of shit up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Let's make it simple for you. The employment numbers that we use are using the same system that we have used for decades. Their value is that using the same system allows us to easily compare month-to-month and year-to-year employment rates. The Labor Dept has several measurement systems with lots of different variables. However, we use the same one we always have to see quickly if employment is going up or down.
    The only time the employment statistics are questioned by Reichwingers is when there's a (D) in the White House. Otherwise they're accepted as golden -- at least if they're trending up. Remember how the MAGATs bleated that under #TRE45ON, unemployment for non-whites was historically low? Guess what? It *still* is. Oops.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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