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    Default Trump pleaded the fifth more than 400 times in fraud deposition

    Video released on Tuesday showed Donald Trump answering questions from the New York state attorney general, Letitia James, in a deposition in a civil fraud case late last summer.

    Questioned about his financial affairs, the former president repeatedly invoked his fifth-amendment right against self-incrimination – part of a refusal to answer he repeated more than 400 times.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aud-deposition

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    Given the way Trump has been abused by the Failed Elite Class I have no problem with this.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Utilizing the right to remain silent cannot be taken as evidence of a crime. Though instead of invoking the right I personally would "not recall" anything at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Utilizing the right to remain silent cannot be taken as evidence of a crime.
    Maybe. But Trump has been a criminal his whole life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Maybe. But Trump has been a criminal his whole life.
    Not "maybe", legal Truth (capital T style).

    Trump has been a caricature of a human and childlike in his simplicity all his life, but I doubt you have any actual evidence of criminality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Not "maybe", legal Truth (capital T style).

    Trump has been a caricature of a human and childlike in his simplicity all his life, but I doubt you have any actual evidence of criminality.
    Right. And rain is not wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Utilizing the right to remain silent cannot be taken as evidence of a crime. Though instead of invoking the right I personally would "not recall" anything at all.
    Except Trump made a clear claim that those who use the 5th are essentially admitting guilt. He said, only mafia people do it. If you are not guilty of a crime, why do you need immunity from it? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2142513.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Except Trump made a clear claim that those who use the 5th are essentially admitting guilt. He said, only mafia people do it. If you are not guilty of a crime, why do you need immunity from it? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2142513.html
    Funny. Mafia people do use it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Video released on Tuesday showed Donald Trump answering questions from the New York state attorney general, Letitia James, in a deposition in a civil fraud case late last summer.

    Questioned about his financial affairs, the former president repeatedly invoked his fifth-amendment right against self-incrimination – part of a refusal to answer he repeated more than 400 times.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aud-deposition
    So? Or are you suggesting Kafkatrapping here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    So? Or are you suggesting Kafkatrapping here?
    Sorry, most of what you write is gibberish. Losing interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Video released on Tuesday showed Donald Trump answering questions from the New York state attorney general, Letitia James, in a deposition in a civil fraud case late last summer.

    Questioned about his financial affairs, the former president repeatedly invoked his fifth-amendment right against self-incrimination – part of a refusal to answer he repeated more than 400 times.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aud-deposition
    Because it's a civil case he was being deposed for - taking the 5th can hurt him. He's on record refusing to answer whether or not he agreed to cook the books. It's not going to go well for him - he'll get fined another amount he can afford.

    There won't be justice until some DA indicts him criminally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Because it's a civil case he was being deposed for - taking the 5th can hurt him. He's on record refusing to answer whether or not he agreed to cook the books. It's not going to go well for him - he'll get fined another amount he can afford.

    There won't be justice until some DA indicts him criminally.
    Or someone does a driveby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Except Trump made a clear claim that those who use the 5th are essentially admitting guilt. He said, only mafia people do it. If you are not guilty of a crime, why do you need immunity from it? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2142513.html
    He made a lawyered up pre-speech trying to justify him taking the 5th. Same old "witch hunt" crap. It's not going to work for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Sorry, most of what you write is gibberish. Losing interest.
    You are an idiot. Kafkatrapping is a recognized and defined logical fallacy.

    The fallacy called kafkatrapping doesn’t represent an argument as much as it represents an accusation. Named after the famous Franz Kafka’s novel The Trial in which the main character is accused of an unknown crime. The only evidence is his denial of guilt.

    The fallacy occurs not with the accusation but with the verdict.

    https://listoffallacies.com/kafkatra...0the%20verdict.

    You suggest that because Trump took the fifth repeatedly that his obviously guilty (implied) because of his refusal to answer questions asked of him. Only a guilty man would refuse to answer questions under oath...

    That's the epitome of Kafkatrapping named after Kafka's work, The Trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You are an idiot. Kafkatrapping is a recognized and defined logical fallacy.

    The fallacy called kafkatrapping doesn’t represent an argument as much as it represents an accusation. Named after the famous Franz Kafka’s novel The Trial in which the main character is accused of an unknown crime. The only evidence is his denial of guilt.

    The fallacy occurs not with the accusation but with the verdict.

    https://listoffallacies.com/kafkatra...0the%20verdict.

    You suggest that because Trump took the fifth repeatedly that his obviously guilty (implied) because of his refusal to answer questions asked of him. Only a guilty man would refuse to answer questions under oath...

    That's the epitome of Kafkatrapping named after Kafka's work, The Trial.
    you is boring

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