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    Default Donald Trump Isn’t the Only One to Blame for the Capitol Riot.

    William Dunfee, an Ohio pastor facing felony and misdemeanor charges, told his congregation on Dec. 27, 2020, that settling “your differences at the ballot” did not work, so they should make the “government, the tyrants, the socialists, the Marxists, the progressives, the RINOs” in Washington “fear” them.

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    By James Sasso

    Mr. Sasso served as senior investigative counsel for the Jan. 6 committee and worked on drafting its final report.

    I spent 12 months holed up in a windowless cubical den or locked in my home office investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the United States Capitol and working on a report that my fellow investigators and I thought would blow open the story. When it was released, the press described it as “monumental.” This paper called it “damning.” And it was — for former President Donald Trump, since he bears primary responsibility for the attempted insurrection.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/o...ee-report.html

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    It's always the priests. Prior to WWII it was a priest that was working with militias to overthrow the US government under FDR.
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    There will come a day where Donald Trump is gone, but the dishonor of those who carried his water will remain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    It's always the priests. Prior to WWII it was a priest that was working with militias to overthrow the US government under FDR.
    Religious people think they're closer to God and do not have to obey the law. It is pathetic.

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    "Mr. Trump did not appear out of a vacuum to upend democracy. His presidency was the culmination of years of political degradation during which voters watched our political institutions rust to the point of breaking. Like any good liar, Mr. Trump succeeded by building his lies off a truth; people no longer trust the federal government because they see its corroded institutions as corrupted for the few against the many. Until we fix that problem, we will not free ourselves from the threat of future political violence and upheaval worse than Jan. 6."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Religious people think they're closer to God and do not have to obey the law. It is pathetic.
    Cracks me up when MAGAs claim "the libs want to control our lives". It's exactly what the wacky religious right is trying to do. Dobbs is the latest example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Cracks me up when MAGAs claim "the libs want to control our lives". It's exactly what the wacky religious right is trying to do. Dobbs is the latest example.
    It is not uncommon in mainstream Protestant churches for people to believe they don't have to obey the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    It is not uncommon in mainstream Protestant churches for people to believe they don't have to obey the law.
    Sadly and ironically it's always the churches mired in child abuse scandals.
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    the concept goes back much farther...

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    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    All the speakers at the Trump pre-insurrection rally are responsible too. Those who funded it should also be named and charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    All the speakers at the Trump pre-insurrection rally are responsible too. Those who funded it should also be named and charged.
    Absolutely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    William Dunfee, an Ohio pastor facing felony and misdemeanor charges, told his congregation on Dec. 27, 2020, that settling “your differences at the ballot” did not work, so they should make the “government, the tyrants, the socialists, the Marxists, the progressives, the RINOs” in Washington “fear” them.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/o...ee-report.html
    Trump didn't cause any riot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    By James Sasso

    Mr. Sasso served as senior investigative counsel for the Jan. 6 committee and worked on drafting its final report.

    I spent 12 months holed up in a windowless cubical den or locked in my home office investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the United States Capitol and working on a report that my fellow investigators and I thought would blow open the story. When it was released, the press described it as “monumental.” This paper called it “damning.” And it was — for former President Donald Trump, since he bears primary responsibility for the attempted insurrection.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/o...ee-report.html
    Trump didn't cause any riot. The Democrats did. The insurrection was by Democrats. It was the Democrats that conducted the coup, so far successful...for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Religious people think they're closer to God and do not have to obey the law. It is pathetic.
    Bigotry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "Mr. Trump did not appear out of a vacuum to upend democracy. His presidency was the culmination of years of political degradation during which voters watched our political institutions rust to the point of breaking. Like any good liar, Mr. Trump succeeded by building his lies off a truth; people no longer trust the federal government because they see its corroded institutions as corrupted for the few against the many. Until we fix that problem, we will not free ourselves from the threat of future political violence and upheaval worse than Jan. 6."
    There is no federal government anymore. Not since the coup by Democrats.
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