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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Um an hypothesis is an idea.
    in the study of science there are additional requirements.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Or, in Pmp's case, a pitchfork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    actually, it isn't an hypothesis......you should have stuck with calling it an idea.....
    I accept your tacit confession that my hypothesis of a symbiosis of an archaea cell and bacteria cell to create a eukaryote is less laughable than your idea that an old guy in a white robe waived a magic wand and created eukaryotes.

    Testibility is sufficient to qualify a hypothesis as scientific, but not necessary in the short run if a proposed hypothesis is attractive on explanatory grounds and is fertile in stimulating new lines of research which promise testibility and falsifiability in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    in the study of science there are additional requirements.........
    The qualifying characteristics of a hypothesis is they can't invoke the supernatural, and they have to have a mathematical or physical basis, and they have to be make predictions, at least in principle in the long run.

    --> Testibility is sufficient to qualify a hypothesis as scientific, but not necessary in the short run if a proposed hypothesis is attractive on explanatory grounds and is fertile in stimulating new lines of research which promise testibility and falsifiability in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    in the study of science there are additional requirements.........
    Not really.

    An hypothesis is really just your "starting guess". You have to have an hypothesis before you can start.

    Of course it needs to be "falsifiable" but there really isn't any "requirements".

    Scientists don't go into the lab and check off a list of things and say "Now, David, this is officially an 'hypothesis', let us proceed to step #756A"

    I speak from 30+ years experience as a lab scientist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    thank you Dutch Perry Penis for your daily sacrifice to the god of stupidity....
    You're Satan's minion, not me, dumbass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I accept your tacit confession that my hypothesis of a symbiosis of an archaea cell and bacteria cell to create a eukaryote is less laughable than your idea that an old guy in a white robe waived a magic wand and created eukaryotes.
    and I take that as your confession that you have not yet advanced to fourth grade debate strategies......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The qualifying characteristics of a hypothesis is they can't invoke the supernatural, and they have to have a mathematical or physical basis, and they have to be make predictions, at least in principle in the long run.

    --> Testibility is sufficient to qualify a hypothesis as scientific, but not necessary in the short run if a proposed hypothesis is attractive on explanatory grounds and is fertile in stimulating new lines of research which promise testibility and falsifiability in the long run.

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    I am old enough to remember when scientists believed in the scientific method.....

    in the short run
    when you get to the second eighty years does it start qualifying as a long run?......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    Of course it needs to be "falsifiable" but there really isn't any "requirements".
    except you just provided one.......lol......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    I speak from 30+ years experience as a lab scientist.
    Do you mean you speak from 30 years of experience finding things "attractive" that are not capable of testing?......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Do you mean you speak from 30 years of experience finding things "attractive" that are not capable of testing?......
    No, I speak from experience of being a real scientist. Not the cartoon image you have because the last time you took a science class was junior high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I am old enough to remember when scientists believed in the scientific method.....
    You don't know what that means. Sorry, but usually when people say that kinda stuff it's because they, themselves, know only what they were taught in junior high school.

    You don't understand the scientific method in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    You don't know what that means. Sorry, but usually when people say that kinda stuff it's because they, themselves, know only what they were taught in junior high school.

    You don't understand the scientific method in reality.
    He's politicizing science like his hero, Pedo Don, and only referencing those "scientists" who have sold out to commercial interests. Example:





    My guess is that people like Pmp are specifically referencing two Alt-Right political ideas: Dissing medical science on COVID and dissing environmental scientists on Global Warming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I am old enough to remember when scientists believed in the scientific method.....



    when you get to the second eighty years does it start qualifying as a long run?......
    I accept your tacit confession you were misinformed about scientific hypotheses.

    There is no time limit in any official rule book.

    If a scientific idea has a reasonable physical or mathematical basis, makes predictions, point us towards fruitful areas of research, and is considered potentially falsifiable in the long term, then it qualifies as a hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    No, I speak from experience of being a real scientist. Not the cartoon image you have because the last time you took a science class was junior high school.
    Over time, you'll notice that Pmp never, ever talks about his past...probably for good reason. LOL
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