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    Default Federal Judge Blocks California Law Punishing Doctors for ‘COVID Misinformation’| CHD

    I thought this article was interesting and perhaps worth a bit of a discussion here.

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    January 26, 2023

    A federal judge in California on Wednesday granted Children’s Health Defense-California Chapter’s request for a preliminary injunction to block a California law that would have allowed the state’s medical boards to punish doctors for spreading “COVID-19 misinformation.”

    By Michael Nevradakis, Ph.D.

    A federal judge in California on Wednesday granted Children’s Health Defense (CHD)-California Chapter’s request for a preliminary injunction to block a California law that would have allowed the state’s medical boards to punish doctors for spreading “COVID-19 misinformation.”

    In his 30-page opinion, Senior U.S. District Judge William Shubb determined the defendants in the case — California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Rob Bonta and California Medical and Osteopathic Boards — provided “no evidence that ‘scientific consensus’ has any established technical meaning,” and that the law provides “no clarity” on the meaning of the word “misinformation.”

    Judge Shubb also found the “plaintiffs have established a likelihood of success on the grounds of their Fourteenth Amendment vagueness challenges.”

    The ruling pertains to a lawsuit filed Dec. 1, 2022, in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California on behalf of plaintiffs CHD-California Chapter, Dr. LeTrinh Hoang and Physicians for Informed Consent.

    The lawsuit was filed after Newsom, on Sept. 30, 2022, signed California Assembly Bill 2098 (AB 2098), which was set to take effect Jan. 1.

    AB 2098 bars doctors “from providing ‘treatment or advice’ ‘to a patient’ ‘related to COVID-19’ when that treatment or advice includes (1) ‘false information’ (2) ‘that is contradicted by contemporary scientific consensus’ (3) ‘contrary to the standard of care.’ If a doctor goes against this ill-defined ‘consensus,’ the doctor is guilty of ‘unprofessional conduct’ and can face disciplinary action.”

    Judge Shubb’s ruling prevents enforcement of AB 2098 pending resolution of the lawsuit.

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    Full article here:
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...isinformation/
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    CDC push lies like removing the definition of vaccine Sept. 10 2021 and replacing it with their lies to justify jabbing citizens with crap that they pass off as a vaccine and now they want to criminalize anyone revealing their rhetoric like a dictatorship.
    We are in an endless duration of constant change where the only thing that doesn't change is that change occurs because energy, matter and time are always present

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    CDC push lies like removing the definition of vaccine Sept. 10 2021 and replacing it with their lies to justify jabbing citizens with crap that they pass off as a vaccine and now they want to criminalize anyone revealing their rhetoric like a dictatorship.
    Agreed. Fortunately, there are groups like Children's Health Defense that are fighting back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    Agreed. Fortunately, there are groups like Children's Health Defense that are fighting back.
    It's sad that it has come to this.
    We are in an endless duration of constant change where the only thing that doesn't change is that change occurs because energy, matter and time are always present

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    CDC push lies like removing the definition of vaccine Sept. 10 2021 and replacing it with their lies to justify jabbing citizens with crap that they pass off as a vaccine and now they want to criminalize anyone revealing their rhetoric like a dictatorship.
    That crap as you refer to was developed by your hero, Donald Trump. He has taken credit for everything related to that vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    It's sad that it has come to this.
    Agreed. I'm just trying to look at the positive :-p.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    CDC push lies like removing the definition of vaccine Sept. 10 2021 and replacing it with their lies to justify jabbing citizens with crap that they pass off as a vaccine and now they want to criminalize anyone revealing their rhetoric like a dictatorship.
    That crap as you refer to was developed by your hero, Donald Trump. He has taken credit for everything related to that vaccine.
    I'm not David, but I can say that I was never a fan of Donald Trump. I only know of one good thing he did in relation to vaccines, which was briefly make Robert F. Kennedy Jr. his vaccine czar back in 2017 before all the Covid madness. Time magazine, being part of the mainstream media, was clearly against it, but it was the one tangible thing that Trump did regarding vaccines that I applauded. Unfortunately, the mainstream media blowback was fierce. Here's an article from Time magazine with a typical response from them:

    Why Donald Trump's Choice of RFK Jr. as Vaccine Czar Is a Terrible Idea | TIME

    I found an article written by the Daily Beast a little over 2 years later, suggesting that the media barrage against Trump's decision pretty much killed Kennedy's position before it even started:

    Robert Kennedy Jr.: The Trump White House Has Shut Me Out on Vaccines | The Daily Beast

    Quoting from it:

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    Kennedy put blame for his ostracism on the administration’s hiring of “pharmaceutical lobbyists who are very pro-vaccines” to run the Centers for Disease Control and other healthcare-related agencies. “Policy, the president likes to say, policy is personnel, well, he put in those positions, personnel that represent the policies that he wants which is very, very pro-pharma agenda,” he said. “I’m sorry to report.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    I'm not David, but I can say that I was never a fan of Donald Trump. I only know of one good thing he did in relation to vaccines, which was briefly make Robert F. Kennedy Jr. his vaccine czar back in 2017 before all the Covid madness. Time magazine, being part of the mainstream media, was clearly against it, but it was the one tangible thing that Trump did regarding vaccines that I applauded. Unfortunately, the mainstream media blowback was fierce. Here's an article from Time magazine with a typical response from them:

    Why Donald Trump's Choice of RFK Jr. as Vaccine Czar Is a Terrible Idea | TIME

    I found an article written by the Daily Beast a little over 2 years later, suggesting that the media barrage against Trump's decision pretty much killed Kennedy's position before it even started:

    Robert Kennedy Jr.: The Trump White House Has Shut Me Out on Vaccines | The Daily Beast

    Quoting from it:

    **
    Kennedy put blame for his ostracism on the administration’s hiring of “pharmaceutical lobbyists who are very pro-vaccines” to run the Centers for Disease Control and other healthcare-related agencies. “Policy, the president likes to say, policy is personnel, well, he put in those positions, personnel that represent the policies that he wants which is very, very pro-pharma agenda,” he said. “I’m sorry to report.”
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    Maybe you can tell us why trump lied about the dangers of Covid from day 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    That crap as you refer to was developed by your hero, Donald Trump. He has taken credit for everything related to that vaccine.
    And you maggots hated the vaccine when trump was president but as soon as diaper boy was elected you shitheads were hellbent on making people take it. Gon fuck yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyx View Post
    I thought this article was interesting and perhaps worth a bit of a discussion here.

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    January 26, 2023

    A federal judge in California on Wednesday granted Children’s Health Defense-California Chapter’s request for a preliminary injunction to block a California law that would have allowed the state’s medical boards to punish doctors for spreading “COVID-19 misinformation.”

    By Michael Nevradakis, Ph.D.

    A federal judge in California on Wednesday granted Children’s Health Defense (CHD)-California Chapter’s request for a preliminary injunction to block a California law that would have allowed the state’s medical boards to punish doctors for spreading “COVID-19 misinformation.”

    In his 30-page opinion, Senior U.S. District Judge William Shubb determined the defendants in the case — California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Rob Bonta and California Medical and Osteopathic Boards — provided “no evidence that ‘scientific consensus’ has any established technical meaning,” and that the law provides “no clarity” on the meaning of the word “misinformation.”

    Judge Shubb also found the “plaintiffs have established a likelihood of success on the grounds of their Fourteenth Amendment vagueness challenges.”

    The ruling pertains to a lawsuit filed Dec. 1, 2022, in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California on behalf of plaintiffs CHD-California Chapter, Dr. LeTrinh Hoang and Physicians for Informed Consent.

    The lawsuit was filed after Newsom, on Sept. 30, 2022, signed California Assembly Bill 2098 (AB 2098), which was set to take effect Jan. 1.

    AB 2098 bars doctors “from providing ‘treatment or advice’ ‘to a patient’ ‘related to COVID-19’ when that treatment or advice includes (1) ‘false information’ (2) ‘that is contradicted by contemporary scientific consensus’ (3) ‘contrary to the standard of care.’ If a doctor goes against this ill-defined ‘consensus,’ the doctor is guilty of ‘unprofessional conduct’ and can face disciplinary action.”

    Judge Shubb’s ruling prevents enforcement of AB 2098 pending resolution of the lawsuit.

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    Full article here:
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...isinformation/
    I think this is a great decision. The last thing the America people deserve is someone deciding for them what they can and cannot see. If they feel a need to punish doctors for not following a narrative then the narrative has become more important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    And you maggots hated the vaccine when trump was president but as soon as diaper boy was elected you shitheads were hellbent on making people take it. Gon fuck yourself.
    There was no vaccine when trump was president, or let's say very little. Unlike you I feel very sorry for the million or so people you lied to and wound up dying from Covid. Let their deaths follow you to the grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    There was no vaccine when trump was president, or let's say very little. Unlike you I feel very sorry for the million or so people you lied to and wound up dying from Covid. Let their deaths follow you to the grave.
    I don't at all. It's a fucking choice you dimwitted fuck. I'm not responsible for the choices of others. This emotional bullshit of yours is the exact reason I know you're a fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    I don't at all. It's a fucking choice you dimwitted fuck. I'm not responsible for the choices of others. This emotional bullshit of yours is the exact reason I know you're a fool.
    You are surely responsible for the choices people made when you and all of your kind, spent months lying about the vaccine and encouraging people not to take it. Come judgement day, you are gonna get yours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    You are surely responsible for the choices people made when you and all of your kind, spent months lying about the vaccine and encouraging people not to take it. Come judgement day, you are gonna get yours!
    I never encouraged people not to take it you stupid bitch. I believe you should be allowed to be as stupid as you want to be. I didn't want to be forced to take it and I didn't want others to be forced to take it. Be a grown ass adult for once in your miserabke life and recognize your life sucks because of your choices. And when it it's finally admitted that the stab is dangerous, and make no mistake about it that will eventually come to light, it will be you and your maggot friends that will get what's coming to you. Filthy totalitarian assholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    I never encouraged people not to take it you stupid bitch. I believe you should be allowed to be as stupid as you want to be. I didn't want to be forced to take it and I didn't want others to be forced to take it. Be a grown ass adult for once in your miserabke life and recognize your life sucks because of your choices. And when it it's finally admitted that the stab is dangerous, and make no mistake about it that will eventually come to light, it will be you and your maggot friends that will get what's coming to you. Filthy totalitarian assholes.
    I wouldn't have expected any less from a lying sociopath like you.

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