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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    I shoot about every 2 weeks, rifle, pistol and shotgun. More often if I'm preparing for a hunt. I approach "gun questions" like this one with trepidation when it's posted in the current events forum on JPP (coincidentally right after 2 mass shootings). And we're not talking about firearms here, are we? We're talking about the ammunition. I continue to maintain that NO firearm is "lethal" until it's in the hands of a human being, or maybe a chimp smart enough to get the safety off.
    Exactly. Would you rather shoot a deer at 200 yards with a 7.62mm NATO or a .22 long rifle? Which would most likely ensure a quick kill?

    So far most of the retards keep repeating "dead is dead". Duh. The question they keep running from is the lethality of different ammunition in different situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    A real man would just wrestle the deer to the ground, strangle it, and watch the life leave its eyes
    I always just give them a Bruce Lee Karate chop!
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    Those Civil War Springfield's with
    .58 caliber would leave a big hole in your.R (4).jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollyon 2023 View Post
    Those Civil War Springfield's with
    .58 caliber would leave a big hole in your.R (4).jpg
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself and other Democrats again.
    I thought you were going to find someone else to pester!

    So come on pal! Cut me some slack now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Exactly. Would you rather shoot a deer at 200 yards with a 7.62mm NATO or a .22 long rifle? Which would most likely ensure a quick kill?

    So far most of the retards keep repeating "dead is dead". Duh. The question they keep running from is the lethality of different ammunition in different situations.
    The result you keep ignoring is that dead is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I thought you were going to find someone else to pester!

    So come on pal! Cut me some slack now!
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The result you keep ignoring is that dead is dead.
    It’s okay if you don’t understand, Sybil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    D. It's no more "lethal" than any other firearm.
    You are technically correct. However due to the high velocity of the 223 round, creates a shockwave that inflicts more damage. Personally, I don't want to be hit by any bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    What makes the AR-15 so lethal?

    A. It is semiautomatic.
    B. It is high caliber.
    C. Has a large capacity clip.
    D. Your answer.

    None of the above...


    AR - 15 is short for ArmaLite Rifle - 15.

    It was designed by by an American guy called Eugene Stoner around 1957/1958, when he was Chief engineer at the California-based ArmaLite small arms company.

    Stoner's original AR-15 was a fuly automatic rifle.

    The US Military was impressed with the AR-15 for its accuracy, reliability, light (8 Pounds) weight and remarkably power, among other things..

    It fired .233 Remington rounds and could pierce slabs of metal plate at a distance of 500 yards.

    Stoner's AR-15 also fired very high-velocity rounds that were supersonic at 500 yards.

    The US Army were sold and it placed orders for 1000's of Stoner's AR-15s with the ArmaLite company in the late 1950.

    The Army made some minor modifications to the AR-15 and designated it the M-16.

    The M-16 was an assault rifle capable of semi-automatic and fully - automatic fire.

    So,that is the pedigree of today's AR-15 ("America's favourite rifle).

    An AR-15 rifle you buy today is only capable of semi-automatic fire (it cannot fire in a fully-automatic mode).

    What makes today's AR-15 so lethal is the supersonic velocity of the rounds it fires that are still travelling at a phenomenal speed at 500 yards.

    If a person is hit by a round travelling at this kind of speed, as it passes into their body the round gives off shock - waves that pulverize/macerate/totally destroy the the body tissues and organs , etc it passes through. Basically if you get hit by an AR-15 round you're dead - or you will be pretty soon. The AR-15 is a totally lethal rife. The only context where its use can be "justified" is in combat on a battlefield.

    The AR-15 is not fully-automatic, but it is a bone fide assault rife none the less- it is one, f**king deadly piece of kit, dude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Why?
    Because you need to stop arguing with people for the sake of arguing lad, and becoming a pest.

    Just watch yourself a little more closely, and think about what you are posting, before you post it.

    For one, this is not a contest to see who wins arguments. This is a place where we share ideas, and no one has to agree with you, and you don't have to agree with anyone else
    to share your opinion. People are questioning your ability to reason and deal with reality. That's all I am sayin'! BE MORE CAREFUL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dachshund View Post
    None of the above...


    AR - 15 is short for ArmaLite Rifle - 15.

    It was designed by by an American guy called Eugene Stoner around 1957/1958, when he was Chief engineer at the California-based ArmaLite small arms company.

    Stoner's original AR-15 was a fuly automatic rifle.

    The US Military was impressed with the AR-15 for its accuracy, reliability, light (8 Pounds) weight and remarkably power, among other things..

    It fired .233 Remington rounds and could pierce slabs of metal plate at a distance of 500 yards.

    Stoner's AR-15 also fired very high-velocity rounds that were supersonic at 500 yards.

    The US Army were sold and it placed orders for 1000's of Stoner's AR-15s with the ArmaLite company in the late 1950.

    The Army made some minor modifications to the AR-15 and designated it the M-16.

    The M-16 was an assault rifle capable of semi-automatic and fully - automatic fire.

    So,that is the pedigree of today's AR-15 ("America's favourite rifle).

    An AR-15 rifle you buy today is only capable of semi-automatic fire (it cannot fire in a fully-automatic mode).

    What makes today's AR-15 so lethal is the supersonic velocity of the rounds it fires that are still travelling at a phenomenal speed at 500 yards.

    If a person is hit by a round travelling at this kind of speed, as it passes into their body the round gives off shock - waves that pulverize/macerate/totally destroy the the body tissues and organs , etc it passes through. Basically if you get hit by an AR-15 round you're dead - or you will be pretty soon. The AR-15 is a totally lethal rife. The only context where its use can be "justified" is in combat on a battlefield.

    The AR-15 is not fully-automatic, but it is a bone fide assault rife none the less- it is one, f**king deadly piece of kit, dude.


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    The AR-15 is not an automatic weapon. It is semi-automatic.

    It makes no difference. Restricting or banning ANY type of gun is unconstitutional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Because you need to stop arguing with people for the sake of arguing lad, and becoming a pest.

    Just watch yourself a little more closely, and think about what you are posting, before you post it.

    For one, this is not a contest to see who wins arguments. This is a place where we share ideas, and no one has to agree with you, and you don't have to agree with anyone else
    to share your opinion. People are questioning your ability to reason and deal with reality. That's all I am sayin'! BE MORE CAREFUL!

    Thanks!
    So you can't answer. Why am I not surprised? All you can do is throw insults. *yawn*
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    A real man would just wrestle the deer to the ground, strangle it, and watch the life leave its eyes
    I know a guy that drowned a deer while canoeing. Totally illegal way to take a deer BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So you can't answer. Why am I not surprised? All you can do is throw insults. *yawn*
    You may be confusing insults with just good old fashioned GOOD ADVICE!

    Never carry your feelings on your sleeve. If you ever let people think they hurt your feelings, they can do it at will just to be mean.

    I am just trying to help you look after yourself.

    I'm really only here to help! But I must be truthful in order to help anyone! AND THE TRUTH SOMETIMES HURTS!

    I want you to start helping yourself, BY FIRST BEING HONEST WITH YOURSELF! That is a first step!
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