Gun question.

[LV426]

"Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People"

Then why do you want to give people guns?

[Eagle_Eye]

Who cares, it is, and has no other purpose other than to kill as many as possible as fast as it can in the less amount of time, unless one lives in Somali, no logical reason why it is needed outside of military purposes

Typical anti gun rant. All guns have a sole function. And that is to throw a projectile when fired. It is the user who determines if it is meant to kill or not.
Yes the primary reason for a gun, is to kill, be it food or a threat to your safety. There are sick bad people in this world who use guns for evil but they are a very small portion of gun owners.

[Life is Golden]

What makes the AR-15 so lethal?

A. It is semiautomatic.
B. It is high caliber.
C. Has a large capacity clip.
D. Your answer.

D. It's no more lethal than many handguns other than being a "big skeery gun." lol

[Geeko Sportivo]

An AR-15 does not qualify as high caliber, by any standard. The bullet is barely larger than a 22 ffs. Was this a trick question?

Yes, but the AR 45 rifles are just as available today as the AR 15! Some people refuse to call them AR 45's and still call them 45 caliber AR 15's !

When you go into a gun store today, and ask to see an AR-15, they will ask you what Chamber size?

.204 Ruger
.223 Remington
.22 Nosler
.224 Valkyrie
.25-45 Sharps
6.5 Grendel
6.8 SPC
.300 Blackout
.300 Ham’r
.30 Remington AR
.350 Legend
.450 Bushmaster

Just' sayin!

[Doc Dutch]

It is high velocity and long, so it tumbles after entering. It leaves a bigger cavity than a .45 would. So it is a smaller caliber, but still a serious weapon.

It has a lot of velocity behind it, hence the F = MA formula. Tumbling would allow a greater transfer of force to the target before exiting, akin to soft-point or hollow-point bullets.

The Geneva Convention requires all bullets be FMJ; full metal jacket. An unstable bullet upon impact would be a work-around. This explains the problems with tumbling through the air vs. upon impact: https://guntradition.com/223-tumble/

Not sure about the 5.56 vs. the .45 at close range. A long range, the .45 hits the ground. LOL

The ballistics, including muzzle velocities:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_ACP

5.56 is about 3000 ft/s vs. the .45 of about 1000 ft/s.

[archives]

Typical anti gun rant. All guns have a sole function. And that is to throw a projectile when fired. It is the user who determines if it is meant to kill or not.
Yes the primary reason for a gun, is to kill, be it food or a threat to your safety. There are sick bad people in this world who use guns for evil but they are a very small portion of gun owners.

We’re not talking guns here, rather a specific weapon designed to kill as many as possible in the shortest amount of time, there is no logical reason why one not in the military should have one, especially when they are so easily accessible, even one on a terror watch list can legal obtain one
And Babe Ruth couldn’t have hit all those Home Runs without a bat

[Doc Dutch]

We’re not talking guns here, rather a specific weapon designed to kill as many as possible in the shortest amount of time, there is no logical reason why one not in the military should have one, especially when they are so easily accessible, even one on a terror watch list can legal obtain one
And Babe Ruth couldn’t have hit all those Home Runs without a bat

Anti-gun/gun ban rant noted.

When We, the People, empower our own government to decide which rights we have based upon "need", then we are truly fucked in the long run.

However, if we do decide to go down that road, then I support an IQ, sanity and education test requirement for voting. Voters should be qualified.

Same for running for office.

[T. A. Gardner]

What makes the AR-15 so lethal?

A. It is semiautomatic.
B. It is high caliber.
C. Has a large capacity clip.
D. Your answer.

The AR-15 in .223 is not "high caliber." It is a small often cited as "subcaliber" round based off the highly accurate .222 Remington round. It does not have a "large capacity clip." It has a magazine that holds multiple rounds. The .223 also has poor penetration and lacks longer range accuracy due to the lightness of the bullet.

This is a clip of .223 ammunition



This is a magazine of .223 ammunition that fits on an AR-15



What makes ANY gun lethal for the most part is a person that knows how to use it properly and fire it accurately.

[T. A. Gardner]

This is a 10-round magazine British Enfield SMLE, a rifle that first saw military service in 1895. It is bolt action. In the hands of someone who is practiced with it, you can easily fire 20 aimed rounds a minute from one, possibly as many as 30.



It isn't the weapon that matters. It is who is operating it that does.

Practiced, you can fire 10 rounds in 10 seconds, reload in 10 seconds, and repeat the process.

[Into the Night]

Since "all of the above" is not an option, I'll go with B. F = MA

FWIW, deer hunting with the .223 is illegal in some areas because it's better at wounding deer than killing them. It's why I prefer the AK; the 7.62x39 is a better hunting round due to F = MA.

WRONG. It's the same bullet as a .22, dumbass.

[Into the Night]

Would you prefer magazine? When I carried the M-16 we called them clips.

So what is the answer?

By the way a magazine is something you read in the doctors office. LOL

The M-16 doesn't have clips either. You've obviously never carried an M-16.

[Into the Night]

Clips originated with the 1911 .45 and is in common usage. Purists and self-appointed experts make a big deal about "magazines".

https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...-vs-magazines/
The bottom line is that both terms, clip and magazine, are used almost interchangeably today to describe a detachable device for feeding the action of a firearm. Before purists chime in, let me add that back in 1909 and 1910--as the United States was looking at adopting its first self-loading pistol for widespread issue--in U.S. Army Ordnance Dept. documents it referred to the detachable box magazine for what would become the U.S. M1911 pistol as, well, a clip.

Very few guns have clips. Neither the M-16 nor the AR-15 uses clips.
The 1911 pistol doesn't use a clip either.

A clip is not a magazine. Redefinition fallacy. Again, you are showing your complete ignorance of weapons.

[Saint Guinefort]

The M-16 doesn't have clips either. You've obviously never carried an M-16.

And you have???? LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

[Into the Night]

Just looking at the projectile length and weight shows the 223 would do significent more damage as it tumbles inside the body.

Same bullet, dude.
The only difference is the shell.

[Walt]

Not sure about the 5.56 vs. the .45 at close range. A long range, the .45 hits the ground. LOL

During the Six Day War, Israel had Uzi equipped companies to fight in urban settings. The Egyptians were able to completely pin one of these units down by just standing 100 yards away. As long as they surrounded the Uzi carrying soldiers with rifles, and stayed 100 yards away, they could kill the Israelis, but the Israelis could do nothing to them. The Israelis had to call for help, and other soldiers came to rescue them.

The Uzi usually uses 9mm, but it is the same basic range as the .45.