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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The alt right activists claim they have lists of teachers who have opposed the alt right politically (spoken out against this law, or donated money to a Democrat), and they are going to try to send them to prison. The law is so easy to break, and so draconian in its minimum sentencing, they might just be able to do it.

    I am not sure quietly breaking the law will help teachers get away with it. Classes have 20 to 30 students in them, many very willing to turn in their teachers. Besides, this is a crime with clear physical evidence of the crime. And physical evidence that does not require a warrant to find.

    The one hope is that prosecutors will refuse to prosecute. Even there DeSantis has illegally fired prosecutors for saying that laws are not reasonable. The prosecutors that are left are the prosecutors that will prosecute any crazy thing.
    I imagine that eventually they will end up firing and/or prosecuting a teacher for some violation of this fascist nonsense. They'll appeal any conviction up to the U.S. Supreme Court. Won't *that* be an interesting case? Mere presence/possession of a contraband book, no matter its content, results in a criminal conviction? Does the 1st Amendment have anything to say about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    They're in favor of *other people* getting taxed so that they can have a bloated defense budget, but not themselves because all of *their* money obviously goes to lazy welfare slackers and libtard schools that groom kids for sexual exploitation.
    Yea. They want to cut all safety net programs.

    Until there is a disaster in their state, and then they come begging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Yea. They want to cut all safety net programs.

    Until there is a disaster in their state, and then they come begging.
    Exactly. Like FL after the hurricane devastated Fort Myer. Unlike #TRE45ON did with the California fires, though, Biden didn't try to play politics with sending assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    What they really mean when they say taxation = slavery is that they only want taxation to pay for certain things, like the ones you mentioned. The "slavery" part comes in when those taxes also go for Medicare and Medicaid, SNAP, those damn liberal schools, libraries, and other things they disapprove of.

    Several RWers here have used that phrase, btw.
    Again, when it comes to their mothers and grandmothers having benefits cut, they are not as big of advocates on cutting such programs.

    Again, education is the solution. Those in power, including the corporations and political parties, use such wedge issues to divide Americans instead of educate them about the realities and necessities.

    Fearmongering is the exploitation of the ignorant and the stupid. Can't do much about the stupid (except deprive them of their vote. LOL), but ignorance can be cured. Sadly, neither party seems very interested in educating all Americans. They prefer to use the tactics as discussed on this and several other threads.

    Example: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-despite-Biden
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Exactly. Like FL after the hurricane devastated Fort Myer. Unlike #TRE45ON did with the California fires, though, Biden didn't try to play politics with sending assistance.
    Or as #45 did when handing out ventilators?

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    For Trump, It’s Not the United States, It’s Red and Blue States
    A statement by President Trump this week was an insight into how he views the country as composed of parts that either are for him or against him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Yea. They want to cut all safety net programs.

    Until there is a disaster in their state, and then they come begging.
    Which is proof of their ignorance. This ignorance, and hypocrisy, is easily seen in the Florida hurricane recovery threads.

    Such threads are a great litmus test to determine which JPP members are honest and knowledgeable vs. liars, and/or ignorant, stupid or nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Again, when it comes to their mothers and grandmothers having benefits cut, they are not as big of advocates on cutting such programs.

    Again, education is the solution. Those in power, including the corporations and political parties, use such wedge issues to divide Americans instead of educate them about the realities and necessities.

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    Example: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-despite-Biden
    Yeah, I saw that thread. Funny how polls are only valid to the Reichwing when they say what they want to hear. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yeah, I saw that thread. Funny how polls are only valid to the Reichwing when they say what they want to hear. lol
    Agreed.

    It's also one of my favorite puzzles on JPP: Are they really that stupid? Crazy? Or just lying scumbags?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed.

    It's also one of my favorite puzzles on JPP: Are they really that stupid? Crazy? Or just lying scumbags?
    Critical thinking is a lost art to them.

    The interesting takeaway I got from that poll was not the percentage of black voters (0.5% with a margin of error of +/-2.8%) who said they did not experience any problems voting. Instead, it was how the vast majority of voters chose early, in-person voting rather than by mail or on election day. That was true across race, age, political party, gender, educational level, income demographics. It proves that people will be more likely to vote when it is made more convenient to their lives.

    Watch for (R)s to fix that "problem."
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    Perfect for this thread. The proposed banned books are not just about alleged sexy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Perfect for this thread. The proposed banned books are not just about alleged sexy stuff.

    https://i.imgur.com/wu9ROCB.jpg
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    Gonna be difficult for DeSantis to pivot to the center for the general after this dire move to appeal to extremists in the primary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Exactly. Like FL after the hurricane devastated Fort Myer. Unlike #TRE45ON did with the California fires, though, Biden didn't try to play politics with sending assistance.
    "They should be thanking me. I've been very good to them"
    Or

    "They didn't vote for me. Why am I helping them?"

    Dumb fuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Which is proof of their ignorance. This ignorance, and hypocrisy, is easily seen in the Florida hurricane recovery threads.

    Such threads are a great litmus test to determine which JPP members are honest and knowledgeable vs. liars, and/or ignorant, stupid or nuts.
    Yup. Or the tornado in Kentucky, when Rand Paul came begging after numerous lectures about how NY didn't deserve any Sandy relief.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Yup. Or the tornado in Kentucky, when Rand Paul came begging after numerous lectures about how NY didn't deserve any Sandy relief.
    DeSantis begged for socialist help!
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