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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdberg View Post
    Many times TV has shown excerpts news media saying the same words in the same theme all day long. It is what they do. The news media uses inculcation to control followers.
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    Try to read what I wrote with comprehension shithead. Honest to goodness you're a retarded fuck.
    he has as much chance of being successful as you do.

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    Ron DeSantis will be the next President.
    Cause you say so? Is he even going to be a candidate, you fucking fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    The documents belong to the National Archives, not Donald Trump. Once again you have zero proof that they were declassified, as if that actually mattered.
    Do you have proof that they were not de-classified?

    There was a custody dispute, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Do you have proof that they were not de-classified?

    There was a custody dispute, nothing more.
    Classified or not classified, the documents did not belong to trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Classified or not classified, the documents did not belong to trump.
    As I said, a minor custody dispute over de-classified documents.

    Biden had classified documents stored in multiple non-secure locations, a federal crime.

    Do you now see the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    As I said, a minor custody dispute over de-classified documents.

    Biden had classified documents stored in multiple non-secure locations, a federal crime.

    Do you now see the difference?
    The FBI is not called in for minor disputes, honey pot. Then again your opinion dont mean shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    The FBI is not called in for minor disputes, honey pot. Then again your opinion dont mean shit
    Nor does yours, Sweet Cakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Nor does yours, Sweet Cakes.
    You are right, my little cuntie. The JD will do what they have to do.

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    Biden has admitted, three (3) times, that he owns the classified documents that were illegally stored in multiple non-secure locations, a violation of federal law.

    Some date back to when he was a senator and could not de-classify documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You honestly don’t believe that Biden had meetings in his home in Delaware that people who attended brought secret documents to? You don’t think it’s possible that Biden was never made aware that such documents were classified? The fact that documents were found in an office vacated two years ago, or even in his garage, is not evidence that he knew about them That is simply not enough to survive a summary judgment in a criminal prosecution.

    What we do know is that soon after Trump left the presidency, he was told about classified documents in his possession that are owned by Archives, for two years after that, he refused compulsory legal requirements to return them, and then complained when a warrant was issued.
    Not as a Senator. Their access to such material is limited to the SCIF at the Capitol to which I already provided the rules. If people were bringing him stuff at his house as a Senator to look at, then he was breaking the law at that time.

    What we do know. Senator Biden was in possession of documents illegally kept at his house. There is no other time I can be sure that a crime was being committed because of the plenary powers given to the POTUS and VP to classify and/or declassify materials and the fact that according to that same 2009 executive order they also maintain their clearances for life. Now as I said that doesn't mean that no crime was being committed, it is possible that there was, but we need more information to show that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Not as a Senator. Their access to such material is limited to the SCIF at the Capitol to which I already provided the rules. If people were bringing him stuff at his house as a Senator to look at, then he was breaking the law at that time.

    What we do know. Senator Biden was in possession of documents illegally kept at his house. There is no other time I can be sure that a crime was being committed because of the plenary powers given to the POTUS and VP to classify and/or declassify materials and the fact that according to that same 2009 executive order they also maintain their clearances for life. Now as I said that doesn't mean that no crime was being committed, it is possible that there was, but we need more information to show that.
    But you are assuming those documents 1) have been there since he was a senator. 2) were put there by him. and 3) he knew about them being there.... this is the same guy you claim is so senile he cant tie his shoes...


    Additionally, you remained silent while Trump 1) knowingly had documents that belonged to National Archives, 2) refused a request to return them, 3) Obstructed Justice because he refused a lawful subpoena to return them and the only the government could get them back was coming to get them with a warrant.

    Right?
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    Is it not very possible that at some time when Biden was VP, he said hey, I remember some documentation on this issue from back when I was a senator, go get me those documents... and I declassify them if they are classified.

    Then those documents got left behind by the aid who went to get them and have been shuffled place to place since then without Biden's knowledge? All a Defense attorney has to do is show that is possible and it becomes what us lawyers call REASONABLE DOUBT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    But you are assuming those documents 1) have been there since he was a senator. 2) were put there by him. and 3) he knew about them being there.... this is the same guy you claim is so senile he cant tie his shoes...
    I am not assuming anything. I am using the information provided in the articles. And I am not assuming I am coming to a logical conclusion from the information provided.

    What we know.
    1. Documents were illegally kept at Biden's house since the time he was in the Senate.
    2. Senators do not have access to the material but in one place (a SCIF in the basement of the Capitol).
    3. The rules of that SCIF are documented.
    4. If others brought the documents with them to his house it was illegal (2003 Classified materials and handling EO signed by Bush and the law it refers to both list this as illegal).
    5. If he did not report them for bringing the documents to his house it was illegal (Same law as before).
    6. If he allowed them to leave the documents at his house it was illegal. (Same law as before).
    7. It is unlikely that others brought the documents to his house. (simple conclusion from the information provided, not an "assumption").
    8. The only person with access to the SCIF in that house was the (then) Senator Biden himself.

    Basically, we know a crime was committed. Those documents could not be there from that time without a crime being committed. And we can conclude who put the documents there from the information. Reasonable jury will find this to be enough to convict, well me, if I had done this. It is my conclusion that a reasonable person can conclude the same for Brandon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I am not assuming anything. I am using the information provided in the articles. And I am not assuming I am coming to a logical conclusion from the information provided.

    What we know.
    1. Documents were illegally kept at Biden's house since the time he was in the Senate.
    2. Senators do not have access to the material but in one place (a SCIF in the basement of the Capitol).
    3. The rules of that SCIF are documented.
    4. If others brought the documents with them to his house it was illegal (2003 Classified materials and handling EO signed by Bush and the law it refers to both list this as illegal).
    5. If he did not report them for bringing the documents to his house it was illegal (Same law as before).
    6. If he allowed them to leave the documents at his house it was illegal. (Same law as before).
    7. It is unlikely that others brought the documents to his house. (simple conclusion from the information provided, not an "assumption").
    8. The only person with access to the SCIF in that house was the (then) Senator Biden himself.

    Basically, we know a crime was committed. Those documents could not be there from that time without a crime being committed. And we can conclude who put the documents there from the information. Reasonable jury will find this to be enough to convict, well me, if I had done this. It is my conclusion that a reasonable person can conclude the same for Brandon.
    1) How do you know documents were kept at Biden's house since his time as a senator, and were not put there some significant time later?
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