Did anyone have to go to Biden and ask him to return classified documents, no. Ask him if he had any classified materials, no. Even know that he had classified materials, no.
So if no one knew Biden had materials yet the materials have come forward who in the hell bought them forward? Who made everyone aware they existed and he had them?
You and McCarthy are wrong, attempted to reframe facts to sell a fabrication, there is a reason it is on such as “hot air”
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
You are making some very big assumptions. The age of the documents does not indicate when they were placed in Biden’s location. The location of the documents does not indicate that he knew they were there.
One time, for example, my sister left some court papers at my house, they were in a drawer that I do not usually look In. Many years after she had left them there, I found them. I did not know they had been there all those years. Maybe my wife put those papers there, maybe my housekeeper, it could’ve been my kids. I don’t know exactly when she had left them. The papers were from 20 some odd years ago, but I’ve only lived in this house for 13 years.
If those papers have been a classified document, I would not be in legal Jeopardy. If, however, national archives called me and said you have classified documents, please turn them over, and I refused, then I would be in legal jeopardy. If, after refusing , a court issued a subpoena for those documents, and I refuse to turn them over I would be in even further legal trouble.
Last edited by Jarod; 01-25-2023 at 06:48 PM.
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
In order to break the law in question you do not need to "know" or have a "sinister purpose" you simply need to have exposed the documents. And having only one person cleared that has access to the documents does provide a clear and reasonable path to who brought them there. Pretending that folks just drop by Biden's house to drop off documents from his time in the Senate is an absurdity only someone who voted for him would believe, much like the idiots who believe that Trump "declassified every document in his home" on "standing orders". While I do not know if he broke the law, I also do not know that the docs form Biden's VP time broke the law (because of the plenary power), but I do know that the docs from his time in the Senate did break that law as he could in no way have the documents in his house without breaking that law.
Simply being irresponsible with the documents is enough. Taking them from the SCIF at all is enough... and would have been enough for me to lose my job, get an OTH discharge and spend time in Leavenworth as a prisoner, not a guard.
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- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
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- -- Aristotle
You honestly don’t believe that Biden had meetings in his home in Delaware that people who attended brought secret documents to? You don’t think it’s possible that Biden was never made aware that such documents were classified? The fact that documents were found in an office vacated two years ago, or even in his garage, is not evidence that he knew about them That is simply not enough to survive a summary judgment in a criminal prosecution.
What we do know is that soon after Trump left the presidency, he was told about classified documents in his possession that are owned by Archives, for two years after that, he refused compulsory legal requirements to return them, and then complained when a warrant was issued.
Last edited by Jarod; 01-25-2023 at 07:10 PM.
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
4,487
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
Nope, Trump did not. He stole classified documents by the truckload. https://thehill.com/opinion/3622679-...apes-decision/ The classification act of 1994 set the parameters. Trump followed none.
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