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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Obama took nothing
    His were all electronic and was sent to a holding center until his library is built
    Actually, his own staff says he took nearly 30 million pages of documents...

    Almost all the media coverage of this controversy has ignored or downplayed the dismal failure of the Presidential Records Act to reveal presidents’ records. A Washington Post analysis of the dispute on the 30 million pages conceded, “As with many issues of government transparency and document-sharing, it’s true that this is not great! You often have to wait years for requested documents, and this appears to be no exception.”
    https://nypost.com/2022/08/14/theres...i-raid-uproar/

    When most office workers leave a job, clearing out their desk involves a cardboard box and maybe a paper shredder. When the office worker is the President of the United States, it means military cargo planes, police-escorted tractor trailers – and getting nowhere near that shredder.

    On Tuesday, the White House began the laborious process of transferring all of President Barack Obama’s records – his memos, his letters, his schedules, and, yes, his emails – to the National Archives, which under federal law takes ownership of the documents when Obama leaves office.

    At the downtown Washington Archives headquarters on Tuesday, uniformed US service members were busy loading palettes of cardboard boxes stuffed with Obama administration records onto orange forklifts. The boxes, which were carefully catalogued with green slips of paper and wrapped in clear plastic, were shuttled from a loading dock and into the back of a white Ryder moving van

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/01/polit...rds/index.html

    The Obama administration in its final year in office spent a record $36.2 million on legal costs defending its refusal to turn over federal records under the Freedom of Information Act, according to an Associated Press analysis of new U.S. data that also showed poor performance in other categories measuring transparency in government.

    For a second consecutive year, the Obama administration set a record for times federal employees told citizens, journalists and others that despite searching they couldn’t find a single page of files that were requested.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-a...its-last-year/

    All recent presidents took lots of documents with them on leaving office.

    The contorted Presidential Records Act is a bipartisan scam to hide White House mischief
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...001/?gnt-cfr=1

    So, as usual, you are full of shit and have no facts to back your assertions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    It's not the mishandling my dear,. but the intent. All but one person returned the documents immediately after being found. Trump refused, lied, and wouldn't return them. Now that's the difference.
    Mishandling is a crime in and of itself. I held a Secret clearance for nearly three decades. Mishandling classified documents is a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Cool! Let's do Bill and the Hildabeast's house along with the Obama's next! Bet they have shit stashed here and there that's classified and they don't know it either... While we're at it, let's do all of the members of Congress. We might as well clean the house thoroughly!
    Although you sound a bit shrill, I agree. They should all search right now and turn over anything found, or face search and seizure like the recalcitrant #TRE45ON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Mishandling is a crime in and of itself. I held a Secret clearance for nearly three decades. Mishandling classified documents is a crime.
    It's truly hard to say how totally full of shit you are my dear. Every fucking word out of your mouth is a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I said only yesterday here in the forum, that it was likely that any VP, or President, or anyone whoever was ever in a Classified Briefing, are likely to have Classified Information laying about somewhere in their garages or homes! Bank Deposit boxes are probably full of them.

    AND DAMN, 24 hours later, it is starting to look like it- MORE AND MORE!

    I think they all need to go to jail, until THESE ELITISTS start following the rules and LAW! NO ONE SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW! AND THERE SHOULD BE NO EXCEPTIONS OR PRIVILEGED CHARACTERS.

    All of the hypocrites need to just shut the fuck up and NOW!

    There should be a National Calling right now out to every one who has ever received a Classified Document, and have them voluntarily handed back over to the National Archives or face searches and seizures and/or risk facing fines and jail sentences.

    LET'S GO!
    LOL I think you're talking about every US Rep, Senator, VP or president. At one time or another all have had security clearance. Makes us wonder how many of our national secrets are spread all over the country. You and I are in TX, right? Let's you and I go and see what's at W.'s old ranch
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    Gosh I hope that whoever took these documents and failed to return them is found! And the fact that they could break into Mike's house and make it look like he took them and didn't handle them correctly is even more sobering.

    In all seriousness this is beginning to look like a problem for both sides and for all politicians. Maybe we need to reconfigure how documents are viewed in the SCIF or how they are signed out and returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I think he didn’t know


    But Biden did teach him how to react appropriately
    I agree.

    Sounds inadvertent.

    Unintentional.

    Good news for Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    LOL I think you're talking about every US Rep, Senator, VP or president. At one time or another all have had security clearance. Makes us wonder how many of our national secrets are spread all over the country. You and I are in TX, right? Let's you and I go and see what's at W.'s old ranch
    Thanks!

    I think it is a problem out of control.

    And not only that, a lot of these documents are stamped Classified by presidents with agendas and other politicians to cover up campaign strategies and agendas- and what have you?

    All at a time when we need even more transparency, and less coverup, and classifying documents is just a tool that has been abused and misused to cover their bad shit up!

    Often times, classifying documents is just a way to cover up things to the public, or their political adversaries, so they do now know what is really going on.

    And that is why much of it is in the garages of these politicians now, and the reasons why some do not want to let go of them now!

    Our Intelligence community are not the only ones classifying documents. Anyone can classify a document!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    I agree.

    Sounds inadvertent.

    Unintentional.

    Good news for Biden.
    Senator Biden removed Classified Documents from a SCIF . That isn't an unintentional accident. When you exit they have a person that has your phone and electronic devices that ask you if you are "clean" before they are returned to you. Biden obviously smuggled them out for a reason. Probably to copy and sell the information to China or Ukraine where his son made million selling access to Joe Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    It's truly hard to say how totally full of shit you are my dear. Every fucking word out of your mouth is a lie.
    Tell us again how VP's can declassify a document that they didn't first classify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Senator Biden removed Classified Documents from a SCIF . That isn't an unintentional accident. When you exit they have a person that has your phone and electronic devices that ask you if you are "clean" before they are returned to you. Biden obviously smuggled them out for a reason. Probably to copy and sell the information to China or Ukraine where his son made million selling access to Joe Biden.
    Your posts are so full of shit they should come with a biohazard warning label.

    Classified documents can easily be mixed in with non-classified documents accidentally.

    Trump is the only one who intentionally STOLE classified documents, took them home and tossed them in an unlocked closet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Cool! Let's do Bill and the Hildabeast's house along with the Obama's next! Bet they have shit stashed here and there that's classified and they don't know it either... While we're at it, let's do all of the members of Congress. We might as well clean the house thoroughly!
    I can't disagree with you on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, it wasn't Republicans that were using unvetted and uncleared foreign nationals to run their computer services in Congress. That'd be 35 Democrats...

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/judici...at-it-scandal/

    It wasn't a Republican member of Congress that was sleeping with a Chinese spy and hired her friends to work in his office...

    My bet is the Democrats go down first...
    Deflect, distort, and distract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Tell us again how VP's can declassify a document that they didn't first classify.
    You are living in la-la land.
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    This sure take some heat off Biden.
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