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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Lithium is nonrenewable


    renewable energy depends on natural resources that exist on planet Earth in fixed amounts and are very much non-renewable.

    The issue of rare earth elements, used in many technologies including solar panels and batteries, is well known. Although these elements are not always as rare as their name suggests, they are finite and not renewable.

    https://theconversation.com/lithium-...sources-109630
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wait till there is a food shortage because of all the farmland being used for wind turbines and solar panels
    A food shortage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Hydrogen or anhydrous ammonia. Either works in a fuel cell. The later can be adapted to work in an ICE engine.
    So when do we begin that transition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    $3500? Holy shit! My 427 Side Oiler bare block cost $4600, and that's before it's been machined!
    Gotta watch those Jasper engines though. They have a tendency to be a bit sloppy about the rebuild, particularly with timing components.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Horseshit. There are charging stations everywhere. Ford, alone has 70,000 nationwide. You're just shitting on EV's because you think that decreasing our carbon footprint is a "lib" endeavor. You're so fucking ignorant.
    So all of a sudden you are justifying spending fuel to charge your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    There are plenty of charging stations everywhere. Some are free to use.
    TANSTAAFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    Because it's nonrenewable.
    Oil is a renewable resource. So is natural gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Hydrogen or anhydrous ammonia. Either works in a fuel cell. The later can be adapted to work in an ICE engine.
    Both have to be manufactured. You will put more energy into manufacturing them then you get by using the fuel in a fuel cell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    So when do we begin that transition?
    Such cars are already being built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    New peak rates mean charging electric cars more expensive than petrol
    Even your article admits that electric cars are cheaper than ice cars, if you charge the car at night. And it is only about UK cars, and only current prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Now who didn’t see this coming??
    Maybe you saw peak rates coming in England, but I am betting you are lying about seeing it coming. I am betting you are an American, who does not know the first thing about how electric rates in England are set. You just saw something that looked like bad news for EV's and are reposting it without thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Hydrogen or anhydrous ammonia. Either works in a fuel cell. The later can be adapted to work in an ICE engine.
    One of the main benefits of hydrogen cars is they are another way to get to electric cars through fuel cells. Why on earth would you want to try to invent an ICE engine that runs on hydrogen? It would be very ineffecient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So all of a sudden you are justifying spending fuel to charge your car.
    Explain how solar or hydroelectric spends fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You do know the electric grid can't handle getting rid of big oil?
    No, I don't know that and neither do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Lithium is nonrenewable


    renewable energy depends on natural resources that exist on planet Earth in fixed amounts and are very much non-renewable.

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    https://theconversation.com/lithium-...sources-109630
    So, nuclear plants create dangerous toxic waste. You want to decommission all nuclear plants, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Hydrogen or anhydrous ammonia. Either works in a fuel cell. The later can be adapted to work in an ICE engine.
    Hydrogen has to be compressed when stored if you want enough to go anywhere. You want to drive around with a tank of highly flammable compressed gas in your car?
    You're a fucking moron.
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