New peak rates mean charging electric cars more expensive than petrol

[Into the Night]

The point of electric cars isn't to save money.
There was always the possibility that driving would be more expensive with electric cars.

It's to help save the environment, although I suspect that it's too late now, anyway.
In all likelihood, humanity is on the brink of merciful extinction,
so perhaps we should all just do whatever the hell we want.

'Save the environment'. There it is. The ole' classic chant from the Church of Green.

[Into the Night]

Global electric vehicle sales reached 10 percent of all new cars sold in 2022, an increase from 8.3 percent in 2021.

EVs continue to become more popular year over year, and consumers are making the switch from gas-powered vehicles to battery-powered ones across the world. Some markets have proven to be hot spots for electrification, while others are slowly coming around to the idea. With manufacturers planning to offer many new EV models this year, 2023 could have even more growth.

New data provided by LMC Automotive and EV-Volumes.com (via Wall Street Journal) shows global EV sales made up 10 percent of every new car sold globally last year, with most of the sales occurring in Europe and China. In these two markets, manufacturers focus heavily on EV sales and are rushing to push competitive models out while optimizing and improving past vehicles.

Last year, 7.8 million electric vehicles were sold. Continuing the adoption of EVs has provided not only new, sustainable powertrains to consumers but also new revenue streams for automakers through subscription-based programs and charging infrastructure.

Special pleading fallacy. Less than 1% of the cars on the road are EVs.

[NiftyNiblick]

'Save the environment'. There it is. The ole' classic chant from the Church of Green.

Are you capable of saying anything at all without sounding like a completely worthless asshole?

I think not, Milquetoast. I don't think that you're able to disguise that which you actually are.

[moon]

Are you capable of saying anything at all without sounding like a completely worthless asshole?
.

Yeah, Night Soil- you should follow ol' Nibbles example;

NiftyNiblick

"The towelhead savage even makes animal sounds. Fuck her/him/it with a rusty fishing knife. Useless piece of shit."

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...28#post5450828 #33

Haw, haw...........................................haw.

[moon]

'Save the environment'. There it is. The ole' classic chant from the Church of Green.

What church is ' Destroy the environment ' from, sky-boots ?


Haw, haw......................haw.

[Nordberg]

EVs are a lot cheaper to use. https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/a...ctric-vehicles It is simply the truth. The fact is people charge at night when rates are low. DTE sends us charts telling us when the cheapest time to charge is.

[Into the Night]

Are you capable of saying anything at all without sounding like a completely worthless asshole?

I think not, Milquetoast. I don't think that you're able to disguise that which you actually are.

You can't even define what 'save the environment' actually means! It's just a buzzword from the Church of Green.

[Into the Night]

What church is ' Destroy the environment ' from, sky-boots ?


Haw, haw......................haw.

Define 'destroy the environment', twit.

[moon]

Night Soil;

Define 'destroy the environment', twit.

You're the definitions guy, sky-boots

Night Soil;

You can't even define what 'save the environment' actually means!

Haw, haw...................................haw.

[Into the Night]

EVs are a lot cheaper to use. https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/a...ctric-vehicles It is simply the truth. The fact is people charge at night when rates are low. DTE sends us charts telling us when the cheapest time to charge is.

WRONG.

EVs cost more to purchase, and that price will only go up as supplies of lithium and cobalt diminish.
They are expensive to repair.
They take a long time to charge, making them impractical for long distance, remote, or all day hauling.
They require about twice as much energy to charge and run than a similar sized gasoline car. They are wasteful of energy.
The cost of infrastructure (power generating capacity, transmission capacity, switching capacity, and charging stations will have to be massively expanded if EVs are mandated.
They are a significant fire hazard, destroying ships, homes, charging stations, and cars parked near them. Simple corrosion or minor road damage is enough to start an EV fire. There is no putting it out. The car will burn and take whatever is near it with it.

[Into the Night]

Night Soil;


You're the definitions guy, sky-boots

Night Soil;




Haw, haw...................................haw.

Okay. So you can't define either of them. They remain undefined buzzwords, and chants by the Church of Green.

[Nordberg]

WRONG.

EVs cost more to purchase, and that price will only go up as supplies of lithium and cobalt diminish.
They are expensive to repair.
They take a long time to charge, making them impractical for long distance, remote, or all day hauling.
They require about twice as much energy to charge and run than a similar sized gasoline car. They are wasteful of energy.
The cost of infrastructure (power generating capacity, transmission capacity, switching capacity, and charging stations will have to be massively expanded if EVs are mandated.
They are a significant fire hazard, destroying ships, homes, charging stations, and cars parked near them. Simple corrosion or minor road damage is enough to start an EV fire. There is no putting it out. The car will burn and take whatever is near it with it.

Wrong .the car prices are about the same. They have much lower costs in electricity over gas. They have a lot less maintenance. They save many thousands over the lifetime of the vehicle. The infrastructure bill dealt with charging stations. Try and keep up. I also gave you a cite on how oil companies are getting into the charging station business. You really are clueless.

[Joe Capitalist]

Space for cars on city roads is being removed, trip times are being increased with lower speed limits, parking is being removed and thus prices increased all for one reason and one reason only (your overlords will tell you something else)....to get you to give up your car.

The sky is falling!!!! The sky is falling!!! Run for your lives!!! Run for your lives!!!

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

More bullshit Chicken Little scare tactics from the radical right. Whatever happened to Hillary's email server and President Obama's Birth Certificate?
You right wing Bull Shitters make me laugh if you really think other people believe your bullshit.

Here's a clue: THEY DON'T

[Joe Capitalist]

Wrong .the car prices are about the same. They have much lower costs in electricity over gas. They have a lot less maintenance. They save many thousands over the lifetime of the vehicle. The infrastructure bill dealt with charging stations. Try and keep up. I also gave you a cite on how oil companies are getting into the charging station business. You really are clueless.

I love how ItN tries to convince us that EVs are less efficient than Gas cars.
Gas cars lose much of their energy in heat from friction. That's why they need a lubrication and cooling system. EVs have neither and don't need to maintain these systems with fluids. Also, with EVs Regenerative Braking, you rarely use the brakes. Thus, less maintenance. Also, no valves, no camshaft, no transmission.

ItN has no fucking idea what he's talking about. Either he's a moron or he knows he's lying but he's saying it to be in lockstep with the other right wing morons.

[Hawkeye10]

The sky is falling!!!! The sky is falling!!! Run for your lives!!! Run for your lives!!!

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

More bullshit Chicken Little scare tactics from the radical right. Whatever happened to Hillary's email server and President Obama's Birth Certificate?
You right wing Bull Shitters make me laugh if you really think other people believe your bullshit.

Here's a clue: THEY DON'T

Even the willfully blind are rapidly losing the ability to avoid seeing that America is in big trouble....your con job no longer works.