I think I might have a legal issue with my company

[Hawkeye10]

THis is a great place to note that San Antonio has for many years been a solidly democratic city, and is more so all the time. Things not being done right is common.

[LurchAddams]

Intel left California almost entirely as has the entire chip and electronics manufacturing industry. That is true across Blue states. Why? Because those states usually have the most onerous regulatory requirements on manufacturing anything.

I remember reading a case of a ladder manufacturer in California year ago. The state came in and told him he had to do like a million + in upgrades and environmental controls on his plant or they wouldn't let him make ladders. He called his entire workforce, something like 50 people in and introduced them to the state regulators and then told them they were all terminated as of like a few days. He said he'd pay them in full with a bonus.
He then said if they wanted their job he'd be glad to keep them on in Goodyear Arizona where the plant was moving ASAP. He said the reason was the regulators--standing there--had demanded he make unaffordable upgrades to his plant in California. They had to call the cops to keep the regulators from being beaten to death by the employees...

Funny thing, he makes ladders in Goodyear AZ and sells them in California... (among other places).

California fucked themselves when it comes to manufacturing.

I think you're incorrect. Intel has a huge campus in Oregon, a heavy blue state. FB and Twitter are HQ'd in CA, and Silicon Valley is still Silicon Valley in N CA.

Manufacturing is fucked all over the nation, not just in CA. The computer you're typing on right now was likely assembled in China, Taiwan, or S. Korea.

[LurchAddams]

If you have not made a mistake then you would not need another job Champ.

THINK!

People switch jobs all the time.

Champ. You like to play "Debbie Downer" because you hate yourself. It's why you're constantly trying to make others miserable.

[Hawkeye10]

People switch jobs all the time.

Champ. You like to play "Debbie Downer" because you hate yourself. It's why you're constantly trying to make others miserable.

Says the guy with a gazillion complaints about his new job.

[LurchAddams]

Says the guy with a gazillion complaints about his new job.

You are both a fool and a loser.

[Celticguy]

Depends on the law. We'll see what it is in TX. An employee cannot enter into a contract to work for free in most states I've worked. It's not a legal contract.

you did not agree to work free, you agreed to work on commission.

[Celticguy]

People switch jobs all the time.

and when its time for layoffs, its last in, first out.

[LurchAddams]

you did not agree to work free, you agreed to work on commission.

I don't get commission for training.

[LurchAddams]

and when its time for layoffs, its last in, first out.

In non-skilled labor, perhaps. In sales it's best in, worst out.

[LurchAddams]

So I just got off the phone with the Texas Workforce Commission. I was right. They can't work me for free.

So, if I don't start pulling in big bucks here, I'll just find another job and file a claim for the hours I've worked here. At the very least I'll keep this dealership from screwing anyone else.

[Celticguy]

I don't get commission for training.

that is correct. you get an opportunity to sell their cars and earn a commission.

[Celticguy]

In non-skilled labor, perhaps. In sales it's best in, worst out.

legal sez nope.

[LurchAddams]

legal sez nope.

Wrong. "At will" means an employer can fire anyone without a reason. TX is an "at-will" state, my friend.

[Celticguy]

Wrong. "At will" means an employer can fire anyone without a reason. TX is an "at-will" state, my friend.

Being laid off is not the same thing as being fired.

[NiftyNiblick]

So called "right to work" laws are the sign of a pathetically socially regressive state.
I'm not sure why any person of character would want to live in one.

To me, my activities as a union rep were many times more important than my actual company work.
I was good at my actual job, and recognized for it, but I'm most proud of my union activities which helped a lot of people.