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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    So, I was hired on the 9th at one of the largest, if not the largest dealership in San Antonio. Before we can even have access to our CRM (customer relationship management system) we have to complete about 50 hours of training.

    Today I asked my boss when I was getting paid. He told me that since I had previous car sales experience, I don't get any compensation other than commission.

    Well... in order to earn commission I need to at least have access to our systems, have business cards, access to the vehicle keys, etc. I have none of that.

    So, I can't earn if I can't access our systems and I can't get that access until my training is complete.

    I used to be a hiring manager. One thing my HR department hammered into all of us is that we need to make sure that all employees get paid for the hours they work.

    So, I don't think it's legal for the company not to pay me for the hours or training.

    My plan is to contact the TX DOL on Monday and see if TX state law allows the arrangement my company is operating under.

    I don't want to get into a battle as a new hire, but I also don't think it's fair to be forced to work and train for free.
    You might as well quit,Car Dealers are vindictive as Hell!
    That being said ,you should get a draw that you pay back when you have a commission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I AM,I AM's,AM I View Post
    You might as well quit,Car Dealers are vindictive as Hell!
    That being said ,you should get a draw that you pay back when you have a commission.
    I'm going to see what the law is. I like the people I work with. It's not a bad place to be and until I either resolve the "no pay for training" issue or get job elsewhere - I'm getting good experience. Hiring managers look more favorably at people that are currently employed which is why I don't think it's a great idea to just leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Depends on the law. We'll see what it is in TX. An employee cannot enter into a contract to work for free in most states I've worked. It's not a legal contract.
    They will claim you're not working for free ,you get commission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    I'm going to see what the law is. I like the people I work with. It's not a bad place to be and until I either resolve the "no pay for training" issue or get job elsewhere - I'm getting good experience. Hiring managers look more favorably at people that are currently employed which is why I don't think it's a great idea to just leave.
    I worked at the biggest Buick dealership in Ohio ten years,they will try to get away with anything they can!
    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Actually, he asked what he could do to get where I am.
    Did you tell him about the long hours at the glory hole?

    You on the other hand, practice the politics of envy. You hate that others have success you don't and resent them for it.

    LOL. I wouldn't WANT your "success" compared to what I have. LOLOLOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I AM,I AM's,AM I View Post
    I worked at the biggest Buick dealership in Ohio ten years,they will try to get away with anything they can!
    Good luck.
    It's also the other salespeople who will grab your customer who happens to come in for one more look on your day off.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    It's also the other salespeople who will grab your customer who happens to come in for one more look on your day off.
    Of course! Anything goes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by I AM,I AM's,AM I View Post
    They will claim you're not working for free ,you get commission.
    We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I AM,I AM's,AM I View Post
    I worked at the biggest Buick dealership in Ohio ten years,they will try to get away with anything they can!
    Good luck.
    Thanks. I'll be fine, either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    Thanks. I'll be fine, either way.
    Dealerships are tight with a buck,completely ruthless,but the most fun place I ever worked!
    They hired me when ATT used every way possible to blackball me from employment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Phimosis View Post
    Did you tell him about the long hours at the glory hole?

    LOL. I wouldn't WANT your "success" compared to what I have. LOLOLOL.
    We know that's really you Perry...


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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    We know that's really you Perry...
    One of the weirdest aspects of this forum is that there are SO MANY PEOPLE who resort to the "I'm rubber, you're glue" mode of defense. If you are unable to come up with YOUR OWN insult, just take the one that was put at you and turn it around! 100% CLEVER!

    You know you look like a fuckin' moron when you do that.

    Try harder. Try coming up with YOUR OWN insults!

    (Or not...I suspect you are a serious dimbulb.)

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    Texas is not a sate committed to protecting workers or consumers either for that matter.
    No "red state" is.

    The working class will vote Republican for the permission to call black people 'niggers' and gay people "faggots,"

    and, of course, the right to go to church or the mall armed to the teeth,

    and let's not forget the responsibility to bring unwanted babies into the world but then not care for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Texas is not a sate committed to protecting workers or consumers either for that matter.
    No "red state" is.

    The working class will vote Republican for the permission to call black people 'niggers' and gay people "faggots,"

    and, of course, the right to go to church or the mall armed to the teeth,

    and let's not forget the responsibility to bring unwanted babies into the world but then not care for them.
    Which is worse?

    A state that goes all-out to protect workers at the expense of employers or a state that goes all out to protect employers at the expense of workers.

    In states that practice the former, there is a shortage of good jobs and employers because they leave the state leaving workers unemployed. The employers who stay start treating their workers poorly in most cases because of regulations forced on them by the state making it hard to stay in business. In the later, there is a mix of good and bad employers, the bad ones taking advantage of the workers, but at least everyone has a job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Which is worse?

    A state that goes all-out to protect workers at the expense of employers or a state that goes all out to protect employers at the expense of workers.

    In states that practice the former, there is a shortage of good jobs and employers because they leave the state leaving workers unemployed. The employers who stay start treating their workers poorly in most cases because of regulations forced on them by the state making it hard to stay in business. In the later, there is a mix of good and bad employers, the bad ones taking advantage of the workers, but at least everyone has a job...
    That does not comport with the actual facts

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